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Smallholding => Land Management => Topic started by: graham-j on May 20, 2014, 09:09:38 pm

Title: Change of use from Agricultural to Equine.
Post by: graham-j on May 20, 2014, 09:09:38 pm
Hi,am I still allowed to graze farm animals that has had a change of use from agricultural to equine.Sorry I'm not sure if this is the correct place to post this.

Thanks Graham.
Title: Re: Change of use from Agricultural to Equine.
Post by: mojocafa on May 20, 2014, 09:54:58 pm
This is what I'm led to believe by my local council in angus as I am currently waiting for change of use...
... Only livestock can go in an agricultural field,
any animal beit goat , horse , or livestock can go in a paddock

I am hoping to get change of use from agri to paddock as I can't evidence that my goats are livestock as I don't slaughter for food or fur,  it's a lot of   :cow:
Title: Re: Change of use from Agricultural to Equine.
Post by: graham-j on May 20, 2014, 11:58:35 pm
Its a nightmare my local council are saying I'm grazing animals other that horses on land that has had its use changed to equine.
Sound rediculas to me.
Title: Re: Change of use from Agricultural to Equine.
Post by: UPoneacre on June 06, 2014, 09:09:38 pm
Graham,
I've only just picked up this topic hence the delayed reply.

From a planners viewpoint since horses ceased to be used in farming some fifty to sixty years ago they have taken the stance that equine and agricultural are two very distinctly separate use classes hence the requirement for planning applications for change of use.

I have argued in the past that the grant of planning permission 'permits' the change of use but the actual implementation of that permission only occurs  when the landowner/applicant makes use of it e.g if you obtain planning permission to build a house you don't actually use the permission until you build; if you don't build then your permission lapses after 3/5 years dependent upon the timescale condition attached to the permission. Likewise if you have agricultural land with a permission for change of use to equine then if you have not implemented that change of use yet  there is no reason why you cannot continue to use it for agricultural purposes.
Title: Re: Change of use from Agricultural to Equine.
Post by: philcaegrug on June 08, 2014, 09:34:51 pm
We have 8 acres of land classed as agricultural but only keep horses with no problems (so far).  If you have one of them to drag a chain harrow are they then not working animals?
Title: Re: Change of use from Agricultural to Equine.
Post by: UPoneacre on June 17, 2014, 09:55:55 am
As with all planning matters it's many shades of grey, not black and white. If you harrowed every day with your horses then you could argue they'd be working animals, without doubt, but I suspect you don't? I think you'd need to do much more than that with them on a regular basis to substantiate that argument.