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Title: Prolapsed ewe
Post by: country soul on April 05, 2014, 03:36:30 pm
Prolapsed ewe             <blockquote>                     Can any one advise  please, I have two newly lambed shearling ewes with  what I would describe has vaginal prolapses I ve had a spoon in but how long do I leave it in for,I took it out after 4 days and the 3inch fleshy tube popped out again,so I ve  put the spoon back.The ewes have had a shot of antibiotic/inflammatory.They are eating and appear healthy in other respects.
 Its the first time I ve experienced this in 14  years keeping sheep
 Thanks in advance</blockquote>
Title: Re: Prolapsed ewe
Post by: FiB on April 05, 2014, 06:54:21 pm
I had a full on post lambing prolapse last year ( MUCH more than 3" popping out, had to carefully wash and return her entire insides (seemed like) 3 times !) . Ended up leaving her In a webbing harness (no spoon) for a few months, but it meant she reared her lamb and I was able to take her to cull ewe market. ( friend nearby took similar to vet and they pts!) I used long acting ab and that seemed to do the trick.  Good luck, I don't know how long it needs holding in, but I tried twice too early ( after about.  1 and 2/3 weeks), suppose it may depend how bad it is?  Good luck xx
Title: Re: Prolapsed ewe
Post by: Bionic on April 05, 2014, 09:07:04 pm
I have a ewe that prolapsed 4 weeks before she was due. Stitch put in, which we cut when she went into labour. Unfortunately she prolapsed again yesterday, a week after lambing. The prolapse wasn't as bad this time and went back in itself but I am sure It was going to pop out again. The vet said she would be happier if she put a stitch in. She said there is no rush to take the stitch out I.e. 1 month, 2 month, 5 months. It doesn't matter.
Title: Re: Prolapsed ewe
Post by: jaykay on April 05, 2014, 09:46:29 pm
I'd also go for a stitch, since she's already lambed, so you don't have to keep watching all the time.

Title: Re: Prolapsed ewe
Post by: willoughby on April 06, 2014, 07:46:30 pm
Hi
I would probably give your vet a ring and get them to have a look.  If she has just lambed it may be a uterine problem and so I would probably just get her checked out as these can be more of a problem.
Title: Re: Prolapsed ewe
Post by: country soul on April 06, 2014, 09:02:27 pm
Thanks all
she now pushed  her bowel out and vet says best thing is to put her down.Very frustrating and sad
Title: Re: Prolapsed ewe
Post by: jaykay on April 06, 2014, 09:58:51 pm
Oh no, I'm sorry. Do they really think a harness or stitch won't keep her going, if only to rear her lambs  :-\
Title: Re: Prolapsed ewe
Post by: Pedwardine on April 06, 2014, 10:45:51 pm
I think a stitch is definately worth a try. What is there to lose? Does she seem fine herself aside from this?
Title: Re: Prolapsed ewe
Post by: Bionic on April 07, 2014, 08:34:11 am
Oh, that is very sad  :bouquet:
Title: Re: Prolapsed ewe
Post by: ZaktheLad on April 07, 2014, 08:42:56 am
That's really sad and disappointing - really sorry to hear this.  :'(
Title: Re: Prolapsed ewe
Post by: fsmnutter on April 07, 2014, 02:54:28 pm
Very unfortunate, but if a tear in the uterus allows the intestines to be pushed out, there is no chance of keeping them going without major invasive surgery, and that would still only be a slim chance.
One of those horrible things, but  :fc: you can raise her lambs
Title: Re: Prolapsed ewe
Post by: country soul on April 08, 2014, 12:56:30 pm
thanks for all the concern,Following the vets advise I sought further advice from the accountant,ok so she keeps sheep too!
Needless to say she helped me stuff every thing back inside and strap it up like a turkey ,it appears ok at the mo 24 hours on,its eating and pooing and looking after its lambs.
Its early days but at least its alive
Title: Re: Prolapsed ewe
Post by: ZaktheLad on April 08, 2014, 01:01:22 pm
 :fc:
Title: Re: Prolapsed ewe
Post by: Me on April 08, 2014, 01:47:18 pm
Accountants are the farmers best friend! On that subject - if any of you live in the West Wales area my wife is a Chartered Accountant specialising in agricultural clients - also able to replace prolapses!
Title: Re: Prolapsed ewe
Post by: FiB on April 08, 2014, 05:43:10 pm
thanks for all the concern,Following the vets advise I sought further advice from the accountant,ok so she keeps sheep too!
Needless to say she helped me stuff every thing back inside and strap it up like a turkey ,it appears ok at the mo 24 hours on,its eating and pooing and looking after its lambs.
Its early days but at least its alive



That's exactly what I did with care, help long acting AB (3 lots as we took it off too early twice, and had to repeat process) and  the brilliant webbing harness.  Keep it on! As I said before it was the difference of paying to have her PTS and carted away, and orphan lambs Vs her looking after lambs perfectly and going to cull in October and bringing IN money.  It was hard to send her on because she had a great summer and seemed totally well, but not worth the risk.  My only goal was for her to raise her lambs, which we helped her do.  Hope you have same luck
Title: Re: Prolapsed ewe
Post by: wonderwooly on April 08, 2014, 07:37:01 pm
hi also had prolapsing ewe this year before lambing and after, really quite stressfull,
all advice given seems to fit, just one other thing I had one time were she had been
on her back for a while and the prolaps was really big also a bit mucky and to make matters worse the young lamb in the field thought it very fun to jump on her and off again. ! hum. The prolapse was just not going in so fending of the lambs (it the field)
I phoned the vet on the mobeil and she helped by telling me to A, washing really well, I used betadine I'm in France so
basically iodine, you are asked to wash in it before an operation here (from previous experience). and I happened to have a bottle in my pocket. then not push it back but slide it with two finger from the underside little by little. I can say it really works for experience. got her to her feet. spoon after for about four days untill she left it somwhere.
and that ewe which I have to say I thought had had its day has gone on to produce and feed the nicest looking lamb of the lot. hea
Title: Re: Prolapsed ewe
Post by: country soul on April 23, 2014, 08:30:15 pm
An update on my ewe ,its alive and doing well as are its lambs .Any advise on how long I should leave the harness on?
Title: Re: Prolapsed ewe
Post by: FiB on April 23, 2014, 08:50:41 pm
I only took it off when we got to shearing.( having had 2 disastrous earlier attempts).... You have got to keep checking to make sure no fly strike or probs under harness, so pleased to hear this update ! Basically I think that as long as she is ok, leave the harness on .... Because it's a whole heap of more trouble if it comes out again.   It's a great outcome verses being pts!
Title: Re: Prolapsed ewe
Post by: Bionic on April 24, 2014, 07:44:08 am
Regarding prolapsed, the vet told me if they are prone to prolapse keep them on flat land.
On hilly land sheep always sleep facing upwards so gravity helps to pull the prolapse out again.


If you are in Wales, keeping them on flat land is easier said than done. Ours that prolapsed a month beforehand was kept in the stable yard for the month leading upto the birth as it's flat and we wanted to keep a close eye on her.