The Accidental Smallholder Forum
Community => Coffee Lounge => Topic started by: Troubled Waters on October 01, 2009, 03:21:00 pm
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Hello I hope someone can give me some pointers.
We have definately decided we need to move ahead with our plans to re-locate sooner rather than later. Banbury isn't doing it for us at all.
We are predominately looking at Scotland but haven't ruled out other areas. Our main deciding factor will unfortunately be where at least one of us can find work. I am well versed in all the national job search facilities, also those sepcific to environment/conservation/sustainability, tourism, horticulture and marketing. So we get to my questions:
Are there any local resources I can tap into in Scotland to find jobs that may not be advertised in national search engines (eg local websites/newspapers I must try/etc)?
And for those that might know: is it harder for interlopers to get jobs in Scotland than those already there?
We are fed up with fluttering around communities and really want to integrate as much as we can.
Well I hope one of you lovlies can give me some pointers.
Many thanks , Helen.
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Most Scottish Local Authorities put jobs on myjob.com (?). Did you see the one I put on for Garden Share coordinator in Edinburgh?
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I definately wouldn't see you being discriminated against in the job sector just cause you're not Scottish ;D We're a very friendly & multicultural country - honest !
I'd choose your preferred area first then visit the local council website for info, then contact BT/Yellow pages and request a phone book for the area, this way you'll be able to see what companies are close enough to commute to and target them directly by way of a CV mailshot (I've done this on 3 or 4 occaisions, sending a minimum of 10 cv's each time and I've always got a job out of it ;))
Personally, my gut feeling is to go for a base close enough to commute to one of the larger cities but still out in the country. Where I am (in Lesmahagow, South Lanarkshire) is 10 minutes from the M74 motorway, that gets you to Glasgow in 30 minutes or Edinburgh is 60 min. But I'm just biased, being in the middle of rolling hills and rivers, fields of sheep, cows and horses - you'd never know it was so close to civilisation !
Good luck & do let us know how you get on ;D
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I'd agree with the proximity to motorways idea. I'm on the edge of Clackmannan, the Posties say it's semi rural but I have yet to be convinced ;) 5 minutes to the M876 and 30 minutes to Edinburgh ,a little more to Glasgow, 20 minutes to Stirling, 2 hours or thereabouts to Aberdeen. If you need the income you need to find the jobs first and if necessary go into a rented place till you find your new home. But be warned land is very difficult to come by in Central Scotland.
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look at the visit scotland website for 'local tourisum' places.
STV.jobs is another one.
Linz
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Us interlopers came up from Leicestershire 3 years ago. I planned everything and we both used to work for a Social Work agency so I transfered to the Branch in both Edinburgh and Glasgow as we felt that was were the most Socal/Drug/Homeless work would be. I put a string to the scale of 30 miles between the major cities and came up with where we are now in Clackmannan. We we arrived my paper work had gone missing so we had to start again, lucily we were cleared to work quickly and did some relief work and I soon got my checks done I landed a good job with Glasgow council and my partner also got regular work, I now work from home in our B&B but am also a youth worker and signed up to another agency in case I need work. I also suggest you look in local scottish papers on the internet, S1 jobs and depending on your skills you could post your CV on specialist internet sites look for any recrutment agancies...I will tell you more later as we have guests and I am talking rubbish and spelling very badly!!!GOOD LUCK
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I was in a similar position a few years ago when I was looking to move back home to Scotland from Englandshire. Whilst there is no 'anti-English' discrimination that I'm aware of, I did find it hard to get interviews when I still had an English address on my CV. Once I actually moved here (unemployed!), I suddenly started getting interviews for some reason! I suspect that without the Scottish address, my CV just looked like hopeful speculation from someone who was applying for jobs all over the shop. Once I already lived here, I suppose I looked like a more serious applicant. Not an easy one to sort though I'm afraid!
HTH!
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I suspect that without the Scottish address, my CV just looked like hopeful speculation from someone who was applying for jobs all over the shop. Once I already lived here, I suppose I looked like a more serious applicant. Not an easy one to sort though I'm afraid!
You could use a 'c/o' address I suppose.
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I worked for a company in England who had an office in Glasgow and I applied to work there, I went for an interview with 30 others and there was only one job so was not too suprised when I did not get it BUT...we all spoke to existing workers in the large office and I said something to a male worker and he turned away from me and said " don't do English" I was very shocked and would have normaly said something but as the other 29 people all came from Glasgow I did not complain.........everyone else has been great..just a very odd remark usualy from Drunks
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Hey, thanks for all the tips peeps. Mike has to work this weekend so I will be hitting t'internet inbetween jam batches!
Already got a few good'uns to apply for. Inc your one Rosemary, that's right up my street. Did fancy this one but thought it might be a bit too remote... http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/scotland/article6846781.ece
If all else fails we could rent our house out and stay with Mike's great aunt in Peebles for a while...
Oh Sandy, that's not nice. Glad its few and far between.
Thanks again, Helen.
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Hi TW
if you want to move really far north then try Jobs-north. they advertise from Aberdeen to Inverness and up to Caithness and Sutherland. Not so much choice and pay rates tend to be lower than in the cities but the advantage is that house and land prices are way lower, especially the further north you go! You could be a crofter!
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You can also try www.scotcareers.co.uk and www.scottishjobs.com
I love living in Fife, because it is beautiful and you can get to places easily to commute like Dundee, Perth, even Edinburgh. the weather is not quite as harsh as further north or west...
Have a look at our blog, OH sometimes lists properties, if nothing else is on, lol
north-fife.blogspot.com
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You could try http://www.s1jobs.com/
Can definately recommend the north east. Property is much cheaper up here and there is plenty going on in Aberdeen and Inverness. I'm English and have never met any anti-English sentiment.
My neighbour is about to sell her house with 8 acres :)
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I agree that the north east is lovely AND it has NO MIDGIES ! ;D ;D ;D A definate plus in my book. Having lived up there for 5 years I can say that the summers tended to be dryer, but the winters were more severe.:gloomy:
I'm hoping Doganjo will back me on this one, Aberdeen's NOT A CHEAP PLACE TO BUY HOUSES. It's the oil capital of the UK and all the big money is there from the riggs, even out in the sticks it's fairly expensive (though this is by scottish standards - I know property in England is more expensive than here anyway) Inverness is/was cheaper and is a lovely city too.
All that said, the credit crunch has probably dropped the prices - I've not checked them out lately, so could be horribly wrong ???
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Yes, prices are higher in the Aberdeen area than most places in Scotland and I believe they have not dropped as a result of the recession. The sale period has just lengthened in stead - so for instance instead of my house selling in a week a year past January, it would probably take about a month now, but the price would be the same
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Inverness can be quite high priced too, but if you buy outwith ' commuting distance' then you can pick up something resonably priced. We have just bought a 3 bed really good sized farmhouse (move in condition)and 12 acres in sutherland and got it below offers over price. Yes the down side is longer and colder winters and less chance of job prospects but ohhhhhhhhhhhhh the views and the silence and I could go on.......... ::)
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Scotland has a load of different areas with different potentials. Canna is lovely but I imagine that the winters will be long and blustery with little social stuff to act as a diversion. The A9 runs north south from Inverness to Perth and is a real corridor for running up and down the country. I live on the north slope of the strathmore valley ( runs from Blairgowrie to Kirriemuir) it is the soft fruit centre growing strawberries and rasps.
The soil is rich and light. Here Dundee and Perth are the two main centres and between them supply everything you could need. I travel 25 miles each day into work which takes me 40-45 mins each way. I don't enjoy the commute and am looking for a way to work closer to or at home. However when I compare my gentle drive through lovely landscape to traffic jam hell down south, I feel lucky. A traffic jam here is anything more that 4 cars or 2 combines. Maybe you should pack a tent and come and visit. you need to walk about and smell where you want to be.
When we are recruiting at work I notice that some folk are nervous about offering an interview to anyone living in England due to relocation and interview travel expenses so if you havea cousin whose address you can use it may very well help.
When I was wanting to come back here from London I had the courier sent to me every Friday for jobs. It is the largest selling daily in Scotland with a circulation larger than either the Scotsman or The Herald. It covers Fife Angus Dundee and Perthshire and Kinross
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TW - Helen - I moved from Adderbury (and you'll know where that is) - up to the Borders Summer 97. Never looked back - fabulous place to bring up kids. Never had any serious hassle about my origins - I run a wee taxi company and sometimes the punters tease me about my "Australian" accent. Makes me laugh cause when I tell them they're way too far South - they accuse me of being a Londoner ..... hey-ho, this Somerset-girlie can take it on the chin. Hey - just go for it - its all beautiful up here. I'm certain that I would never move back South of the Border - maybe up a wee bitty or out West - but happy here. Ah - the West Coast ........! Good luck. Happy Days. Nettle
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I agree with Marigold. You need to come and see some areas and get a feel for it. Then you'll know where's "right". We'd like more land so have been tentatively looking around but I really don't want to move away from this area, so not much chance of more land.
Saw a nice farm on CKD Galbraith site; Butterhole Farm near Dalbeattie. 11acres wood with blubells, 9 acres of pasture, decent house and yard probably in need of some upgrading. About £400k, I think. Looked lovely and it's a nice part of the world.
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I knew you guys would be able to give me some good tips! I'm compiling a list of all the sites/resources mentioned. Great to hear from others than have made the move too and how they have found it. ;D And Rosemary that estate agent site is great. I want to buy them all. :o
We have spent quite a bit of time in Scotland and Mike spent loads of time in the Borders over the years and I think this is an area we might focus on but not exclusively.
It all adds to our research bank.
Thanks againa nd keep it coming if you think of anything else.
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