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Title: Can anyone tell me what this is?
Post by: Eastling on March 16, 2014, 07:02:56 pm
Hi just been clearing around the old pig sty and uncovered a brick lined hole containing water and mud. Not sure what it is or what it could have been used for. Can anyone shed any light please before we fill it in. :innocent:
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Post by: john and helen on March 16, 2014, 07:07:02 pm
how deep and how wide ?
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Post by: cans on March 16, 2014, 07:14:05 pm
any chance of a picture?? 
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Post by: Eastling on March 16, 2014, 07:25:01 pm
1.5 m x 1.5 m  not sure of depth as a very deep layer of mud and sludge, Will try to get a photo up loaded can't seem to do it via my phone.

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Post by: shygirl on March 16, 2014, 07:33:42 pm
how strange. we found a really deep hole on our land this week too, except I think ours is from where there has been a midden and trees planted over the top. ours was lined with metal and could have taken a small child but I think it is accidental,  :thinking:

would yours be an old septic tank? or a well?


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Post by: Eastling on March 16, 2014, 07:45:38 pm
Don't think it is a septic tank as a way from the house and seems small for a septic tank. We have a septic on the driveway near the front of the house. This is next to three old pig sties attached to two stables. Our property used to be part of a large farm. This also has a lead pipe across the middle and cemented into the walls of it. We've got a digger on hire at the moment so will see what we can do. Just would like to find out what it is out of interest as I think OH quite keen to fill it and cap with concrete.
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Post by: Eastling on March 16, 2014, 08:54:10 pm
Pics
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Post by: Lesley Silvester on March 16, 2014, 08:56:45 pm
No idea but it's very interesting.
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Post by: Herdygirl on March 16, 2014, 10:12:02 pm
your local university history department will be able to tell you, most have a historical buildings expert
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Post by: Fleecewife on March 16, 2014, 10:49:01 pm
Apart from being rectangular not triangular, it looks like the settling part of our pig slurry drainage system on the farm where I grew up.  Ours had a metal grid over the top to stop folk falling in.  It worked by collecting the slurry as it ran down surface drains at the end of each pig pen; the slurry then stood in this tank for a while, then the water part drained on into the pond.  The Environmental Protection Agency would have an apoplectic fit to see that set up now.  The pond was turned into a horrible slurry pit with a hard crust on top, just thick enough to make you think it would take your weight until you got to about the middle of the pond.  Fortunately for me, it was my brother who demonstrated that it wouldn't support a ten yo  ;D
Eventually my dad rescued the pond and reinstated it as a haven for wildlife.
Yours could well be working like a small septic tank with the water part draining out into a gravel filled bit below.  It should have turned into good well rotted FYM by now, ideal to put on the veggies (or it could stink when you dig it out)
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Post by: Lesley Silvester on March 16, 2014, 11:17:17 pm
The pond was turned into a horrible slurry pit with a hard crust on top, just thick enough to make you think it would take your weight until you got to about the middle of the pond.  Fortunately for me, it was my brother who demonstrated that it wouldn't support a ten yo  ;D



 :roflanim: :roflanim:
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Post by: goosepimple on March 17, 2014, 10:17:16 am
Well, funny that fleece - OH just dug up something similar yesterday when he was tree planting at what used to be the cartshed joined onto what used to be the pigsty and we wondered what it drained - you've possibly just answered our question  ;)  thanks
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Post by: Eastling on March 17, 2014, 01:20:31 pm
Thanks for the replies. OH is still keen to just fill it. No pond of slurry pit on our land so .. Good to know there is some use for brothers! :eyelashes:
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Post by: Tala Orchard on March 17, 2014, 05:22:10 pm
Looking at it reminds me of the hole we used to drain all rhe pig muck into it was about 6ft deep about the same size.  My Nan used to tske the water out in a bucket and use it to feed her kitchen garden, she used to grow great veg. All the straw and sh== rotted down in the water and must have been good fertilizer.

Tala
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Post by: stufe35 on March 17, 2014, 09:49:15 pm
 Looks like part of a drainage system to me, that has blocked and then filled the chamber.  You need to empty it and check this before just filling it in.   Have you poked a stick in to see how deep it is ?
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Post by: Bramblecot on March 18, 2014, 11:52:18 pm
Looks just like the drainage tank at our old farmhouse (built 1870).  There had been gravel at the bottom with an outflow pipe to take the 'clean' water into the orchard. 
Got a quote to clear it out and relay pipes - £££££. so we did it ourselves :roflanim: :roflanim: .  What a mess, but it worked for the next 10 years without a problem.  Of all the nearby houses on private drainage, ours was the only one that never caused a hassle.
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Post by: hexhammeasure on March 19, 2014, 03:40:39 am
most likely a silt trap, resulting slurry would be collected for use as a fertiliser check the sides for inlets and outlets. DON'T fill it in yet until you are sure its not part of the drains for outbuildings otherwise you might end up flooding them
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Post by: Eastling on March 19, 2014, 06:53:28 am
We have drained out the water and found it is a metal box with a layer of mud in the bottom. There is one pipe coming from the stables at front of the pig sty.So think it is some sort of drainage system.


There are no other buildings near it. The local farmer who owns the surrounding fields thinks the same. The area has never flooded in the 4 yrs we have been here.
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Post by: shygirl on March 19, 2014, 10:21:47 am
there is no overflow coming out of it?
personally id leave it rather than fill it in, if its giving no problems as it sounds handy to have.
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Post by: Eastling on March 19, 2014, 04:06:53 pm
It was covered with thick sheets of metal under mud, we have cleared the pathway and found the metal sheeting hence discovering the hole. Need to do something with it to make it safe, We have got weaners coming at the end of the week and don't want sheet metal where they can get to.
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Post by: Marches Farmer on March 19, 2014, 04:30:04 pm
Could you bolt down a sheet of chequerplate? 
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Post by: shygirl on March 19, 2014, 07:55:16 pm
our septic tank is deep but only has a loose metal lid so we weigh it down with concrete blocks. next door have the same but use paving slabs.