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Pets & Working Animals => Dogs => Topic started by: langdon on September 23, 2009, 11:11:02 am

Title: wanted - dog that doesnt lose much fur (asthma)
Post by: langdon on September 23, 2009, 11:11:02 am
we are desperate for a dog for our small holding in pembrokeshire but would love to have one that could live in our home and be a family pet and therefor need one that doesnt lose much fur as my wife has asthma.  We babysat a jack russell who was fab but shed so much fur it caused asthma to be quite bad.  any ideas or anyone with pups suitable?
Title: Re: wanted - dog that doesnt lose much fur (asthma)
Post by: BadgerFace on September 23, 2009, 11:21:59 am
If you like terriers, how about a Wire Haired Fox terrier. I've owned two, lovely little dogs with great character and non-moulting. Never owned a welsh terrier, but they are also non-moulting as are Airedales and all the poodle family.  :dog:
Title: Re: wanted - dog that doesnt lose much fur (asthma)
Post by: Townie on September 23, 2009, 11:59:25 am
Poodles are not supposed to moult ....

Labradoodles too, but I think the further the breeding goes down the line (Dogandjo correct me if i'm wrong) they do moult, remember reading something about it, f1 hybrids etc etc..
Title: Re: wanted - dog that doesnt lose much fur (asthma)
Post by: Roxy on September 23, 2009, 12:50:45 pm
My neighbour has a labradoodle, lovely looking dog, and she says he does not moult.  Only thing is he is very hyperactive, and is never still! 
Title: Re: wanted - dog that doesnt lose much fur (asthma)
Post by: Rosemary on September 23, 2009, 04:13:56 pm
Go for the terrier - at least you know what you're getting. I think the labradoodle, being a mongrel, is a bit hit or miss depending if it takes after the poodle or the labrador. I met one and it looked like a Labrador on speed, and it was certainly shedding.
Title: Re: wanted - dog that doesnt lose much fur (asthma)
Post by: r+lchick on September 23, 2009, 04:49:17 pm
I read an article once in the news papers where the Australian Guide Dogs for the Blind were crossing toy poodles with labradors.  The result was a dog which did not shed it's fur but was not as "silly" as a toy poodle can be. (Apologies if I affend any poodle lovers.)  Apparently it worked very well for people who were allergic to dog fur and asthma sufferers.   Sorry, that is about as much help as a chocolate tea pot.  Good luck with looking. Ros :pig: :cat:
Title: Re: wanted - dog that doesnt lose much fur (asthma)
Post by: MrRee on September 23, 2009, 05:27:26 pm
There's a breed of a Tibetan dog that is certified to be hypo-alergenic,will google and get back to you......... Ree
Title: Re: wanted - dog that doesnt lose much fur (asthma)
Post by: kazschow on September 24, 2009, 09:25:39 am
Poodles, schnauzers, first gen doodles etc, all should be non shedding.  However make sure, the trigger for your asthma is hair, as more often than not it's dander (the flakey bits coming off the skin) that trgger, so dogs like labradors etc can be a much bigger problem.

I have 2 chows very hairy and blow binliners of coat, my husband was chronically allergic to all animals before we rescued our frst, but after 4 weeks was better with her than me!!!
Title: Re: wanted - dog that doesnt lose much fur (asthma)
Post by: langdon on September 24, 2009, 09:34:30 am
Thanks for all the advice - I am wondering the same about maybe just my allergies adjusting to a dog as we would love a rescue dog.

Will update you all on progress

Thanks  Beth :dog: :dog: :dog: :love:
Title: Re: wanted - dog that doesnt lose much fur (asthma)
Post by: doganjo on September 24, 2009, 03:51:53 pm
Poodles are not supposed to moult ....

Labradoodles too, but I think the further the breeding goes down the line (Dogandjo correct me if i'm wrong) they do moult, remember reading something about it, f1 hybrids etc etc..

Labradoodle to labradoodle is a mongrel and we all know that a mongrel can inherit anything from any part of its heritage.   There is no such thing as hybrid vigour - if a poodle with an inherited disease mates a Labrador with a different inherited disease you run the risk of getting both in the resultant pups. You don't get more labradoodles by breeding two of them together - you get mongrels!  And they cast whether first cross or multiple cross - with a few exceptions that take after the poodle side.  If you need a non casting dog get a pure poodle or one of the terriers already mentioned.
Title: Re: wanted - dog that doesnt lose much fur (asthma)
Post by: MrRee on September 26, 2009, 11:01:44 am
Found it,in a roundabout way,it's a Tibetan Terrier,oh,and they're gawjus!.......... Ree
Title: Re: wanted - dog that doesnt lose much fur (asthma)
Post by: doganjo on September 26, 2009, 03:56:07 pm
Just found this -
Tibetan Terriers do not shed their coat, but they do require regular grooming,
whether their coat is kept long or is clipped short.
You will require a pin brush and a metal comb with
 narrow spaced teeth at one end and wide spaced teeth at the other.
Even if your dog is clipped, he will still require a good grooming once a week to prevent him
becoming matted and may require grooming more than that initially.
A matted dog is an uncomfortable dog and will smell.  Try to get into
a grooming routine which will make your life easier and your dog's life more pleasant!
 
A comprehensive guide to grooming is available through the TTA Shop
 

The Tibetan Terrier Association has a breeder’s list and the breeders on this list agree to abide by the Club’s rules and guidelines, as do most Clubs in the UK now. The main rules are:

   1. Dogs and Bitches being bred from should hold a current BVA/KC Eye Certificate, or equivalent from outside the UK.
   2. Dogs and Bitches being bred must have had their hips X-Rayed for Hip Dysplasia and achieved a good score. The current breed average is a score of 14, the score can range from 0 -106, but the lower the better.

The main hereditary breed abnormalities that they test for are:

          1.   PRA    abbreviation of Progressive Retina Atrophy

          2.   PLL     abbreviation of Primary Lens Luxation

          3.   HD      abbreviation of Hip Dysplasia

Another condition that can affect the breed is Neuronal Ceroid Lipofucinosis (NCL).  At present, there is no test to screen for this condition.
Title: Re: wanted - dog that doesnt lose much fur (asthma)
Post by: Fluffywelshsheep on September 26, 2009, 06:50:45 pm
Don't get a Japanese chin or a JAck russel or even a cross of the too, I have asthma (dosn't  effect me in that way) but i find the hair is a think hollow tipped and irritates me like hell.

linz
Title: Re: wanted - dog that doesnt lose much fur (asthma)
Post by: marigold on September 26, 2009, 09:07:25 pm
My daughter brought home a jack a doodle last year. What a sweetie. I was very sceptical about the whole thing but she is gorgeous, lovely temperament and no shedding! wouldn't have believed it if i had read it in an advert.
Title: Re: wanted - dog that doesnt lose much fur (asthma)
Post by: doganjo on September 26, 2009, 09:48:46 pm
It's probably the only one in the litter that doesn't shed! ;)
Title: Re: wanted - dog that doesnt lose much fur (asthma)
Post by: marigold on September 26, 2009, 10:09:04 pm
Probably  ;D
Title: Re: wanted - dog that doesnt lose much fur (asthma)
Post by: winshamrarebreeds on September 26, 2009, 11:07:50 pm
Patterdale terriets do not shed hair and they have lovely character we have two and they do not moult at all.
Title: Re: wanted - dog that doesnt lose much fur (asthma)
Post by: doganjo on September 27, 2009, 01:09:02 am
I love Patterdales - saw them first at the Dunalastair Estate in Perthshire.  Keeper was a friend of ours and he bred them.
Title: Re: wanted - dog that doesnt lose much fur (asthma)
Post by: BadgerFace on September 27, 2009, 09:43:17 am
I have two patterdales. The smooth coated one moults, the rough coated doesn't.  :dog:

ETA - I would think rough coated Lakelands don't moult either.
Title: Re: wanted - dog that doesnt lose much fur (asthma)
Post by: doganjo on September 27, 2009, 02:08:54 pm
My wire-haired pointer sheds like mad - her ears and neck are quite bald just now, so I'm not convinced it depends on coat texture.