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Pets & Working Animals => Dogs => Topic started by: Kitchen Cottage on February 20, 2014, 12:11:16 pm
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pts December and I still miss him all the time.
He was a liver and white sprollie, my once in a lifetime dog.
There is a lady in Lancashire with these puppies
http://www.preloved.co.uk/adverts/show/109988003/sprollie-puppies-springer-spaniel-x-border-collie.html (http://www.preloved.co.uk/adverts/show/109988003/sprollie-puppies-springer-spaniel-x-border-collie.html)
She usually breeds labradoodles. They will grow up looking so similar to Freddie...
I am terribly tempted to get Freddie 2......
>:(
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Collie tests 1) DNA test - CEA 2) DNA test for CL 3) DNA test for TNS
4) Eye Testing - Gonioscopy
Springer tests 1) DNA test - PRA cord 1 2) Eye Testing + Annual 1) Hip scoring 2) DNA test - PFK 3)
3) Eye Testing - Gonioscopy 4) DNA test - fuco
Good luck finding your next pup, won't be Freddie 2, will be it's own person :love:
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Rather than fuel the "pet dog breeding for money" people why not just look out for a rescue sprollie pup? As you say Freddie was a once in a lifetime dog, irreplaceable x You may be disappointed if you try to replace him.
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Old shep is right, you would never replace him. Go for one of the many poochies out there desperate for a home.
My collie died last year, didnt think l could get my head round having another dog till the dog warden walked into my place of work with an abandoned 5 week old collie x left in a field in a storm. Needed a foster carer, she never left .
:fc: Good Luck
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Hope you find your next dog soon - it'll be a lucky one, whatever breed it is :)
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Ahh, hope when the times right you find the right new addition ...lots of dogs looking for homes here, young and old http://www.manytearsrescue.org/dogslookingforhomes.php (http://www.manytearsrescue.org/dogslookingforhomes.php)
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I have a blind rescue dog. I foster rescue dogs. I am looking for a liver and white sprollie from a puppy.
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my first dog was a sprollie except the word sprollie hadnt been invented then. she was more collie than spaniel though colour-wise. she cost £7 - mind you it was 25yrs ago :roflanim: :roflanim:
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without wanting to offend you that advert reeks puppyfarm. steer clear and find a pup who is reared in the home.
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Gosh, you can't win... if they are domestic bred you get accused of being "back yard breeders", if you are a registered breeder, you are a puppy farm. This is what they are http://www.catlowlabradoodles.com/. (http://www.catlowlabradoodles.com/.) The pups are a deliberate cross for the owners to keep one.
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Choose a breed, go to the breed club website, contact their puppy and/or rehoming coordinator and wait for a puppy or a rehome. The majority of registered breeders are NOT puppy farms.
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To be honest, KC, I had a quick look at the add and did think that they probably breed a fair few pups but I may be wrong. When we looked for a lab pup a few months ago, we came across several "registered" breeders that we personally wouldn't have bought from. These were Kennel Club registered but breeding numerous litters each year. We came to the conclusion by talking to the breeders and asking loads of searching questions. We had just lost one pup through illness and wanted to be as careful as we could .... though the pup we lost came from health checked parents :'(. In the end we went for a breeder who had only the odd litter when he wanted a pup to train and run on. Parents had every check going, went to see them first and even rang a couple of people to find out a bit more about the breeder and yes to check him out I suppose. Also as Doganjo suggested typed in the parents names in the KC register to check that all the tests were there in black and white.
Don't want to get into a debate about registered breeders with anyone on here. Have a look at the KC rules for being a registered breeder. See how many bitches/litters they are allowed to rear, rules on conditions dogs are kept in and you can make up your own mind. As you say you probably can't win so just do some research and satisfy yourself.
Good luck with your search ;D. I know the pup will get a special home with you. Freddie may not be the only once in a lifetime dog for you.
Cross posted with Doganjo.
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Actually to be accurate - there is no such thing as a Registered Breeder!
Anyone at all may apply to be an 'Assured Breeder'. They just agree to fulfil certain criteria when breeding, an initial home check is now carried out, although that is a very recent innovation. Random checks are also carried out on the AB premises, again a fairly new thing,.
Anyone who calls themselves a 'registered breeder' is talking through a hole in the back of their neck.
Admittedly, the previous Accredited Breeder scheme was set up without much aforethought, the KC having assumed honesty where there may have been none. Thus puppy farmers were able to join it and give themselves credence.
This revised scheme has had more thought put into it, although there is still a great deal to be done to police it more - and that is where Government could help.
- http://www.thekennelclub.org.uk/breeding/experienced-breeder/assured-breeder-scheme/?gclid=CNHnpoe93bwCFSYTwwodXR8ABg (http://www.thekennelclub.org.uk/breeding/experienced-breeder/assured-breeder-scheme/?gclid=CNHnpoe93bwCFSYTwwodXR8ABg)
This is a UKAS scheme - http://www.thekennelclub.org.uk/media/418828/faqs_final.pdf (http://www.thekennelclub.org.uk/media/418828/faqs_final.pdf)
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Sorry Doganjo, I used the wrong term. They were assured breeders that we contacted and looked at websites for.
Personally they were not for us.
Can you call yourself 'registered', if you have a licence to breed dogs from the council? Sure I read something about this but can't recall details. ???
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Possibly, I was looking at it from the view of our Governing body. Anyone can get a licence from the Council - they aren't too fussy as far as I can make out. So long as you don't breed more than a certain number of litters they give you teh licence. I only know one breeder who had fairly regular visits from teh Animal Health officer here, and that was for a cup of tea and a cake on his way home.
I'm cynical as you can see! My opinion is that legislation on dog breeding is long overdue!
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I don't disagree but think it's been debated on here before ..... not easy to solve I don't think. I've spoken to a couple of people locally who breed litters and it would make you so :rant:, Doganjo.
Have to admit that, though it maybe better than nothing, the 'assured' breeders didn't reassure me. :(
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Ah, they say licensed breeders.
Dogango, there isn't a breed club for Spollies, they are just trendy Mongrels, They are likely to be home, accidental or gundog bred.
As a breed, where the spaniel is dominant, I love that cross and want it.
I think therefore it's likely to be a homebred or small kennel. I would take a rescue sprollie but haven't seen one!
In truth, I have spies out for one in Bulgaria (where spaniels are quite popular).
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do you do facebook KC? This is a group where you can post what rescue dog you are looking for.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/447940111979268/ (https://www.facebook.com/groups/447940111979268/)
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not sure where in the country you are - but what about this lovely boy?
https://www.facebook.com/244076885635414/photos/pb.244076885635414.-2207520000.1393004283./687567974619634/?type=3&theater (https://www.facebook.com/244076885635414/photos/pb.244076885635414.-2207520000.1393004283./687567974619634/?type=3&theater)
now look what you've started :-) I'm going to be looking at rescue pages all night - that's never a good thing for me ;-)
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OH MY FECKING GOD SHEP ....... HE IS PERFECT!!!!!!!!!!!
I'VE POSTED ON THE THREAD......
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oo oo oooo! good luck :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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He looks lovely.
:fc:KC
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Morgans rescue is only 5 miles away from me
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Ah, they say licensed breeders.
Dogango, there isn't a breed club for Spollies, they are just trendy Mongrels, They are likely to be home, accidental or gundog bred.
As a Championship Dog show Judge it never even occurred to me there would be a breed club since it isn't a breed - it is a mongrel! What I meant was for you to choose a breed and take it from there, but if you really want a mongrel then you will have to be extremely careful - try to find someone who has health tested the parents before breeding - a friend of mine breeds doodles - but her Labrador bitches are hip tested both with low scores, and they have bi-annual eye tests; the Stud poodle she has used has also had his hips and eyes done. There aren't many truly responsible mongrel breeders around so I do wish you the very best of luck..
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Ah, they say licensed breeders.
As a Championship Dog show Judge it never even occurred to me there would be a breed club since it isn't a breed - it is a mongrel!
:roflanim: :roflanim:Sorry! They've got a facebook page ;) ;)
I'm going to ring about Sam today......