The Accidental Smallholder Forum
Livestock => Sheep => Topic started by: greedyasapig on February 06, 2014, 09:06:31 pm
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Hi All.
Any one out there registered as farmers Here in France... In particular Sheep!!
We have a few registered sheep n pigs plus poultry and was wondering about stepping it up a little ..
Do you have to be qualified as in "education" to register as a farmer also Are Grants available even on small scale.
I will look into it but as im on here tonight i thought i would ask members.. :)
Thanks in Advance
Wayne
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There is a farmer in France who keeps pure breed, pedigree Lleyns, The thin is I can't remember where they are.
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Thanks for reply...
Any other takers..or advise?
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Hi
I found the link to the Lleyn sheep society website, the page which tells you who they are.
http://www.lleynsheep.com/info/international/lleyn-europe/paul-alison-bowen/ (http://www.lleynsheep.com/info/international/lleyn-europe/paul-alison-bowen/)
hope this helps
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Have a chat with your Mairie, he is usually the best person to go to in the first instance and should be able to advise you.
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Hi.
From what I understand - if you want farming to become your 'profession' you have to register as an agriculture. In order to be able to register yourself as this, you have to manage a minimum of 10 hectares of land. I think this then enables you to access certain grants/ payments.
I look forward to other peoples comments as this is something I want to find out more about myself.
Bekka
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Yup, 10 hectares (25 acres). But earning off the land or not, cotisations then apply, and tax forms have to filled in on a yearly basis stating revenue, even if 0.
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Big can of worms Wayne, with no definitive answer as it all depends on a number of factors.
1. You can't register as a farmer unless you have 10 or possibly 15 hectares, minimum.
2. You need to prove previous experience in farming. Your local Chambre d'Agriculture would be your first port of call to clarify whether you qualify or would need to attend training courses.
There used to be incentives for 'new' farmers under the age of 40.
3.The painful bits! As there is no such thing in France as a 'smallholder', you're either a farmer or not. If you're a farmer buying, selling, producing, or generally making (or attempting to) make a living, then you fall under the umbrella of MSA to whom you'll pay in the region of 3000 plus Euro a year in cotisations to qualify for health care and family benefits, pension, etc.
The amount you pay in will eventually be adjusted to your actual income around the third year of operation, but only after you've paid up front!
You'll need to talk with an accountant with a specialist knowledge.
If you're intention is simply to keep a few animals for the freezer for own use, then all you need is a cheptel number and follow the necessary guidance and local health regulations of the DDSV through your Vet.
Hope this helps, and good luck!