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Livestock => Poultry & Waterfowl => Topic started by: Clansman on January 28, 2014, 04:26:17 pm

Title: Pheasants
Post by: Clansman on January 28, 2014, 04:26:17 pm
Anyone in Central Scotland area keep any?
Title: Re: Pheasants
Post by: taz08 on January 28, 2014, 05:13:59 pm
ornimental ???
Title: Re: Pheasants
Post by: Somewhere_by_the_river on January 28, 2014, 05:22:39 pm
Allandoo Pheasants are Southwest Scotland, rather than central, but these people are real experts and very friendly and helpful, so can possibly help if too far themselves...
http://www.allandoopheasantry.com/index.html (http://www.allandoopheasantry.com/index.html)
Title: Re: Pheasants
Post by: Clansman on January 29, 2014, 04:24:37 pm
Just the bog standard ring neck type i was after really but I do like the golden pheasants  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Pheasants
Post by: taz08 on January 29, 2014, 05:55:22 pm
can recomend allandoo..
we had lady amherst pheasnats from them a few years ago
anhd they have excellent back up if needed
Title: Re: Pheasants
Post by: shygirl on January 29, 2014, 06:00:35 pm
i very nearly got a load. theres a breeder in wales that sells day olds by the lorry load. cant think of the name of the company off the top of my head but can find out if you are interested..
Title: Re: Pheasants
Post by: Clansman on January 30, 2014, 09:43:34 am
Sorry Shygirl, should have said i'm just looking for a dozen or so.

I'm pretty sure i'll find someone one local eventually, its just not turning out to be as easy as i thought it would!  ;D
Title: Re: Pheasants
Post by: goosepimple on January 30, 2014, 10:13:32 am
...which is amazing Clansman, seeing as the poor wee things are running all over the place not knowing what they should be doing  :D
Title: Re: Pheasants
Post by: bloomer on January 30, 2014, 10:24:41 am
there are several roads i could walk down with a long handled net and come back with a dozen...


surely you could find some strays that need a new home  :excited: :excited: :excited:
Title: Re: Pheasants
Post by: Clansman on January 30, 2014, 10:33:12 am
I could do that but its stealing!  ;D
Title: Re: Pheasants
Post by: bloomer on January 30, 2014, 10:47:24 am
only if you get caught...
Title: Re: Pheasants
Post by: goosepimple on January 30, 2014, 12:41:29 pm
BLOOMER!!


I'll tell a global moderator on you  ;D
Title: Re: Pheasants
Post by: bloomer on January 30, 2014, 12:42:41 pm



ok for clarity i was 85% joking...


i will slap my wrist for the other 15%



Title: Re: Pheasants
Post by: shygirl on January 30, 2014, 06:34:47 pm
there are several roads i could walk down with a long handled net and come back with a dozen...


surely you could find some strays that need a new home  :excited: :excited: :excited:

is it really stealing? we have loads of pheasants on our land but havent actually viewed them as "ours".
we had some quite friendly ones that took  the pigs feed but we shot but always regretted it as its took 5 yrs for them to come close again. they are eating the seeds or something out of the straw atm. not shooting them again.
Title: Re: Pheasants
Post by: Clansman on January 31, 2014, 09:25:26 am
Well if they are on your land its not but for me lifting them out of someones else's land without permission it is.

Can i come and steal yours?  ;D
Title: Re: Pheasants
Post by: shygirl on January 31, 2014, 08:09:11 pm
yep, if you can run fast you can have some. if they leave our woods they get shot by the neighbours so we have a fair few taking sanctuary.
Title: Re: Pheasants
Post by: Dreich Pete on January 31, 2014, 11:06:26 pm
The subject has shifted slightly but it's an area that is significant around me. We live between two estates: one very large one (a few thousand acres) and a much smaller one (probably a few hundred acres) and they both run shooting parties, but according to my neighbours, only the large estate breeds/stocks the pheasant and partridge. What the smaller estate does do is put feeders on their land. Now there's no reason to do this other than to 'encourage' the large estate's birds across, and as much as I dislike the whole shooting for pleasure malarkey, I also recognise that luring livestock onto their land is dubious, and yet nothing has been done to stop it.

When the birds are on my land I consider them as wild birds - they're not mine but the owner has no right to take them off my property - but when they're on the road, or any other persons land around here, they seem to be 'fair game' for anybody. I do wonder who owns them once they've been 'set free'. Perhaps that's precisely what has happened: the breeder has released them from their ownership.

It's an odd arrangement, but like so many other aspects of country life, things aren't always clear cut. I seem to discover a new example on a weekly basis. If my dogs didn't insist on chasing them I might just encourage a few to stay around.
Title: Re: Pheasants
Post by: shygirl on February 01, 2014, 09:21:50 am
its interesting pete. i dont see the wild pheasants as mine at all but i wont let anyone shoot on my land.

however if i had bought thousands (they do get sold in the tens of thousands as day olds etc) and id raised them and fed them id see them as mine. every pheasant area iv seen has plenty of feeders and trees and crops grown specifically for cover etc so  i dont see releasing them into that environment as fair game for others. (excuse the pun) but obviously they arent fenced in and can fly away so its tricky. if think the gamekeeper has his work cut out keeping them there til shooting begins.

btw thainstone poultrty mart sells different pheasants so your local mart may be a source for you OP.
Title: Re: Pheasants
Post by: Clansman on February 03, 2014, 01:42:39 pm
When the birds are on my land I consider them as wild birds - they're not mine but the owner has no right to take them off my property

If they are on your land, you are the owner  :thumbsup:

Putting feeders out to attract someone else's birds is a dirty trick but they are doing nothing wrong.