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Title: HELP, Pygmy just givin birth update
Post by: mojocafa on January 22, 2014, 06:30:44 pm
Pygmy just given birth to two

Mum has cleaned them
They are up and wobbly
They have had had a suckle

So what do I do?

Do I do anything with the umbilical cord

Thanks in advance
Mojo



Title: Re: HELP, Pygmy just givin birth
Post by: shygirl on January 22, 2014, 06:41:49 pm
congrats.
iodine on the cord if poss.
they sound good, just monitor. make sure they poop and wee.
lots of wees means they are feeding enough. when the poop changes colour in a day or so they are getting plenty milk.

Title: Re: HELP, Pygmy just givin birth
Post by: mojocafa on January 22, 2014, 08:00:11 pm
I thought I had 3 weeks to go, so complete surprise and totally unprepared, have separated from herd into clean stable, mum has drunk water, given ad lib hay and usual goat mix.

So that's my first birthing experience over :relief:

If it is dry, I let the goats out, will I keep them in and for how long?
Title: Re: HELP, Pygmy just givin birth
Post by: Lesley Silvester on January 23, 2014, 12:02:51 am
Congratulations.


I think I'd be inclined to keep them in for a day or two at least.
Title: Re: HELP, Pygmy just givin birth
Post by: Penninehillbilly on January 23, 2014, 12:42:57 am
Congratulations  :thumbsup:
I offer mine a warm drink, some offer a warm mash but mine never seem interested.
I'd keep them in as well.
 
And just because it's your first birthing experience over don't think you'll be blazey (sp?) about the next one, you'll be just as concerned with the next one, and the next, and the next.....  ;D 
 
girls? boys?
Title: Re: HELP, Pygmy just givin birth
Post by: Brucklay on January 23, 2014, 08:09:02 pm
Great news, well done.


It's really damp and muddy here so I'm keeping the kids in with their mum's - they have 3 pens (opened internally) to play in and between. If it dries up at all I'll let them out, but doesn't look likely.


Get that camera out now  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: HELP, Pygmy just givin birth
Post by: mojocafa on January 23, 2014, 09:41:21 pm
Thanks all, I've now got over the shock :o

I think it's a boy and girl

Will attempt posting photos tomorrow
Title: Re: HELP, Pygmy just givin birth
Post by: Roxy on January 23, 2014, 10:19:34 pm
Congratulations on your arrivals!!  They will sleep quite a lot for a few days - then watch out!!  They will be up to all sorts of mischief ......
Title: Re: HELP, Pygmy just givin birth
Post by: tattycat on January 25, 2014, 08:25:18 pm
Well done all concerned!! One of mine waits till I'm home before she kids. The other waits till I'm out.....l like to kid mine in April as the weather's better but if you get a nice spring day have them out for a bit nd keep the camera handy!! Fresh air nd sunshine's good for all animals. Well done again!
Title: Re: HELP, Pygmy just givin birth
Post by: sabrina on January 25, 2014, 08:29:16 pm
New babies are a joy to watch, enjoy.
Title: Re: HELP, Pygmy just givin birth
Post by: goosepimple on January 26, 2014, 05:38:27 pm
Great mojo, well done - they're so self sufficient aren't they!  Keep an eye on as someone said and on mums milk bar to see that she's coping ok.  Our wee one last year liked sitting on my fleece in the shed  ::) preferring softness as opposed to prickly straw, make sure they stay cosy, esp if mum is a first timer.  Well done  :trophy:
Title: Re: HELP, Pygmy just givin birth
Post by: mojocafa on January 26, 2014, 05:50:55 pm
The fleece sounds a fab idea, so does anyone close to arbroath have any fleece available.
Title: Re: HELP, Pygmy just givin birth
Post by: jaykay on January 26, 2014, 07:38:32 pm
Well done to all  :thumbsup: Now where those cute little kid photos!

I'm sure an old jumper/coat would be just as welcomed as a piece of fleece. FWIW hay is softer than straw too.
Title: Re: HELP, Pygmy just givin birth
Post by: goosepimple on January 27, 2014, 11:17:18 am
 ;D  I didn't mean sheep's fleece, that may cause a scent problem with the mum - I meant I took off the fleece zip up I was wearing and put the baby kid on it and from then on it was a favourite spot  ;D  for about a month then I took it back, couple of washes and it was mine again  :innocent:
Title: Re: HELP, Pygmy just givin birth
Post by: mojocafa on January 27, 2014, 12:41:31 pm
Thanks for the clarification on that, they are choosing to sleep on hay rather than straw.
Title: Re: HELP, Pygmy just givin birth update
Post by: mojocafa on January 28, 2014, 03:56:25 pm
UPDATE

The original post was about mum number 1 however this update is about her twin, mum number 2.

Checked on goats at 5pm and all seemed fine. At 9 pm checked again and mum number 2 had delivered a single kid which was all cleaned up so guessing she was born about 7 pm, so once again I missed it.

Wasn't happy with mum number 2 presentation so seeked advice from shy girl and MGOM. Thank you so much :thumbsup:. At midnight phoned vet who said that as she was now more settled we would leave her and reassess in the morning. Hubby  sat with her till 330 am.  I went out this morning at 5.30. Still wasn't happy with how she was presenting so after another conversation with vet, we took her into the surgery and were given the choice of pts or c- section. Advised that there was a kid which was stuck and possible dead so we chose to have c- section to at least save the mum and low and behold kid was alive.  :excited:

They're back home now and mums a bit groggy so hopefully all will be well.

delighted with the outcome, however it's all physically and emotionally exhausting, but I guess it's part of the learning curve.
Title: Re: HELP, Pygmy just givin birth update
Post by: Brucklay on January 28, 2014, 04:39:31 pm
A rollercoaster there then but at least mum and kids are fine - that the best outcome  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: HELP, Pygmy just givin birth update
Post by: shygirl on January 28, 2014, 05:36:07 pm
hope its all plain sailing now. great outcome  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: HELP, Pygmy just givin birth update
Post by: Lesley Silvester on January 28, 2014, 06:13:11 pm
Congratulations.  :thumbsup:


Next time has got to be easier.
Title: Re: HELP, Pygmy just givin birth update
Post by: Sbom on January 28, 2014, 06:18:12 pm
Well done! We had to have a c section on a Pygmy last year and it was very traumatic  :o. Keep an eye on her milk as ours went off hers abit and I had to top baby up with a bottle and she only had one to feed. The result was a very tame little girl who we all adore  :love:
Title: Re: HELP, Pygmy just givin birth update
Post by: Anke on January 29, 2014, 01:54:00 pm
Oh no... but that's a really good outcome. Hopefully mum will be ok once her pains have reduced. Goats are a bit like men with flu... but request painkillers for her!

Have you got a goatkeeper nearby with milkers currently in milk? Just so that if you need to top the kids up you may be able to do it cheaper and easier... I am too far away though I think.

 :fc: it all works out ok.
Title: Re: HELP, Pygmy just givin birth update
Post by: goosepimple on January 29, 2014, 02:44:42 pm
A livestock story with a happy ending, how lucky is that!  Well done pygmy mums and owners  :relief: always good to have a learning curve in there too  :D
Title: Re: HELP, Pygmy just givin birth update
Post by: shygirl on January 29, 2014, 06:35:22 pm
everything still ok? hoping them a quick recovery  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: HELP, Pygmy just givin birth update
Post by: mojocafa on January 29, 2014, 09:25:41 pm
Everything is good, I have some photos but can't get them to upload, will try again
Title: Re: HELP, Pygmy just givin birth update
Post by: shygirl on January 29, 2014, 09:49:02 pm
thats really good, welldone.