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Livestock => Pigs => Topic started by: kelly58 on January 21, 2014, 11:49:13 am

Title: Slaughter
Post by: kelly58 on January 21, 2014, 11:49:13 am
Whats the age limit for sending pigs to slaughter ? Say if you kept them till they were 2, would that be OK ?
Does it make any difference to the meat ? :thinking:
Title: Re: Slaughter
Post by: hughesy on January 21, 2014, 12:05:24 pm
Once a pig passes a certain size it will start to lay down fat. Older, larger pigs tend to carry a lot of fat. We sent a 2 year old gilt to slaughter a while ago that we hadn't been able to get in pig and the carcass was enormous. There was as much fat as meat and the meat was very dark almost like beef. It made decent sausages but wasn't much use for anything else. You might want to talk to the abattoir too as some will only take pigs up to a certain size. Out of interest our 2 year old killed out at about 170kg so was nearly 250kg live weight.
Title: Re: Slaughter
Post by: kelly58 on January 21, 2014, 12:41:35 pm
Many thanks Hughsey  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Slaughter
Post by: MKay on January 21, 2014, 01:18:27 pm
We killed a 2yr old large black gilt that became aggressive to our ponies.
It came back with a lot of fat, a really lot of fat! But the meat is just fine, we are sending off the legs to be cured for Gannon, the chump for Parma ham and a shoulder for salami.
But the chops are fine just disappointingly fatty.
Title: Re: Slaughter
Post by: danconfessed on January 21, 2014, 01:26:40 pm
Hi MKay

Out of interest where do you send your meat off to be processed into Charcuterie products?
Title: Re: Slaughter
Post by: Tamsaddle on January 21, 2014, 03:15:01 pm
If you have the choice, definitely don't leave them to 2 years old before slaughter.   All of the older pigs (Tamworth and Saddleback) we had to have slaughtered were very very fatty, the meat was dark and tough and had no resemblance to pork at all, in fact it was disgusting as anything other than a sausage.   The fat is very unpleasant, loose and wobbly too, not like the nice firm fat on a young overfattened pig.    I would say up to 9-10 months old is the maximum I would leave them before slaughter if I wanted to get a decent pork product out at the end.
Title: Re: Slaughter
Post by: Kitchen Cottage on January 21, 2014, 03:45:49 pm
Poor Charlotte was despatched at 6 last year.... Despite her looking a lean lady, the sausages and mince I turned her into were very very fatty.  The sausages are great for toads though and I have worked out a way to lean the mince (although it's a bit of a faff!)
Title: Re: Slaughter
Post by: Bodger on January 21, 2014, 03:53:59 pm
Toads ? :idea:
Title: Re: Slaughter
Post by: Berkshire Boy on January 21, 2014, 05:11:31 pm
Well I'm going to disagree with the majority. I killed a 3 1/2 year sow last year and it was the best sausage and ham we have ever had from a pig. She was not fat 20 -25 m/m and I will be doing it again. The large joints just need to be cooked longer and slower like you would with mutton.
The meat is darker but then any older animal has darker meat.
Don't be put off give it a go.
If the sows have as much fat as meat you are over feeding them.
Title: Re: Slaughter
Post by: shygirl on January 21, 2014, 06:38:28 pm
we killed a 14mth tamworth and she was 178kg deadweight.
she had a good 2 inches of backfat on her but she was delicious. i butchered her myself with no trouble.

the abattoir was miffed though as she was overweight.
Title: Re: Slaughter
Post by: hughesy on January 21, 2014, 07:09:18 pm
I think it's a case of if you've got to send an older pig you send her but surely nobody intentionally keeps a meat pig that long?
Title: Re: Slaughter
Post by: kelly58 on January 21, 2014, 07:35:09 pm
Mine are Mangalitza x large black, everyone seems to say they take longer to ' mature' so thats why l thought 2yrs and asked for input from you guys  :innocent: Just a novice !  :)
Title: Re: Slaughter
Post by: Berkshire Boy on January 21, 2014, 07:50:38 pm
Kelly58 yes mangas are slower but a normal rare breed would go at 6 months  so 2 years would be over the top. I would have thought 9 months at the most especially as its a cross.
Title: Re: Slaughter
Post by: verdifish on January 22, 2014, 11:18:22 am
We sent our kunes at +2 and although they were a bit fatty 26mm and 24mm back fat the meat seemed a bit tough if we have to do this again they will go as sausages as they were awsome !!!
Title: Re: Slaughter
Post by: kelly58 on January 22, 2014, 01:43:44 pm
Will ring abattoir and see what weight they would be happy with as was mentioned earlier and take it from there many thanks for the input guys  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Slaughter
Post by: shygirl on January 22, 2014, 05:02:26 pm
there is an alternative of selling her to cheales liveweight, they take all big ones.
Title: Re: Slaughter
Post by: HappyHippy on January 22, 2014, 07:26:13 pm
there is an alternative of selling her to cheales liveweight, they take all big ones.
Yes, but it's not a great end - to be loaded onto a wagon with all the other cull sows and boars and shipped all the way down south for slaughter  :gloomy: Plus, what would you do for pork for your freezer ?  ;)

I'm also going to disagree with the majority and say I think you'll be fine to eat them  :thumbsup:

I'd maybe opt for mainly sausage and cured pork - but the joints should be fine, as long as you cook them 'low & slow' (and ideally in liquid to stop them drying out too much)
We sent off an 8 year old Large Black sow and since we were trying out a new butcher asked him to mince all of her for sausages & burgers. When we went to collect he presented us with bags of rolled joints. steaks, diced pork - to our horror  :o but he said the meat was far too good to all be minced - he was right  ;) It is a bit tougher - useless for quick frying or BBQing but if it's done in the slow cooker with apple juice or cider (even did one with just water and a good layer of BBQ sauce on top) then it's gorgeous  :yum:
HTH
Karen
Title: Re: Slaughter
Post by: MKay on January 23, 2014, 05:23:59 pm
Iv killed at various ages over the years and my new way from here on out will be
All but one or two gilts at 20/26wks -perfect pork and kill the last at 12/18mths for curing.