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Livestock => Pigs => Topic started by: mowhaugh on November 10, 2013, 07:17:03 pm

Title: What is the best thing to do?
Post by: mowhaugh on November 10, 2013, 07:17:03 pm
So, we now have had the amazing Doreen, our Large Black sow for a week, and are all totally smitten.  I am wanting some advice about getting her in pig.  She is 6 years old, and in her previous home bred successfully and was a super mum.  I am committed to breeding pedigree because I believe it is the right thing to do, but there are no LB boars very near us.

We have got an awful lot going on at the moment with a big SRDP project to put up a new shed with tight time constraints to claim the grant, lots of uncertainty re funding at my day job, older son about to start nursery school etc. etc. so I just can't get my head round getting Doreen to a boar that is miles away at the moment, and am off the whole idea of AI at the moment after bad experiences this year.

I am unsure whether the best thing to do is to just wait until next year - would probably be May, after lambing is over, to take Doreen to a LB boar, or whether it is a bad idea to wait that long when she is older - we could take her to a more local boar, but they would be cross pigglies, then go for a LB litter after that.

Hope that makes sense, thanks, Louise
Title: Re: What is the best thing to do?
Post by: Laurasfarm on November 10, 2013, 07:59:33 pm
Hi

If your prepared to wait until next year for a pedigree litter then maybe think of getting a different boar sooner.  Crosses can make very good weeners
Is she your only sow?
Title: Re: What is the best thing to do?
Post by: RaisinHall Tamworths on November 10, 2013, 08:38:13 pm
 
AI isn't too scary to do with pigs  ;) .  I know you have had more downs than ups with it with other species but it is quite successful with pigs and if it didn't work first time although you have lost some money it isn't as bad as equine bills!!  If she didn't hold to one go of AI you could always try the cross until you can get to a LB boar next year?  I would try get her in pig one way or another  though rather than leave her until next May, just to keep her working  :) .
Title: Re: What is the best thing to do?
Post by: hughesy on November 10, 2013, 09:11:29 pm
If you wait a longish time she might have difficulty getting in pig. How long is it since her last litter? I would try to get her in pig asap. Crosses will make pork just as good as purebred, maybe better.
Title: Re: What is the best thing to do?
Post by: mowhaugh on November 11, 2013, 08:11:07 am
That's grand, thanks. Jodie, I think I will be messaging you lots of idiot level questions about pig AI later on!
Title: Re: What is the best thing to do?
Post by: hughesy on November 11, 2013, 05:14:40 pm
Another thing to consider, especially with an older sow, is don't get too attached to her. It's not a pleasant thing to have to think about but what will you do if she can't get in pig? If you plan on giving her a home whatever happens that's fine, but round here a pig that doesn't pay it's way will be sausages.
Title: Re: What is the best thing to do?
Post by: Marches Farmer on November 12, 2013, 08:14:28 pm
One of the problems with older sows is that although they can continue having large litters their food conversion rate become less efficient with age and they can struggle to produce enough milk, even if well fed.
Title: Re: What is the best thing to do?
Post by: beauty4beast on November 21, 2013, 11:29:35 am
Where are you mowhaugh, as I have a registered Large Black Boar. Judy