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Community => Coffee Lounge => Topic started by: Tullywood Farm on August 19, 2009, 10:59:37 am
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Here's another little gem - maybe the Americans covered up Swine Flu in their own Country,
then introduced it to, and blamed it on Mexico. :o
We were watching "Malcolm in the Middle" the other day, and the boys were spreading around a nappy from Jamie, from when he had "Swine Flu"
We waited patiently for the credits, to find :o :o shock - horror - that this particular episode was filmed
in 2004.
2004 - Five years ago! :o
What's your opinion on that Russ? ??? We have recorded the episode and watched it again just to make sure we are seeing things correctly - and we are ::)
Julie ;D
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That looks pretty concrete evidence to my mind. ::)
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Here's proof that drug companies believe it started this year - AND
that Tamiflu just does not work...
Roche - Swine Flu Stocks to Watch
Posted on August 14th, 2009 in Swine Flu
Roche share price hasn’t exceeded the 20% return since the first swine flu symptoms were reported in Mexico in April 2009, a clear indication that Tamiflu is not the solution to the swine flu pandemic. Relenza, produced by GlaxoSmithKline, is also reporting the same ineffective results primarily over children under 12.
http://www.cashive.com/category/financial-markets/stock-market/swine-flu-stock-market-financial-markets-2/ (http://www.cashive.com/category/financial-markets/stock-market/swine-flu-stock-market-financial-markets-2/)
What have the Americans done in the name of Money >:(
Julie
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http://www.capitalcentury.com/1976.html
yes Julie, whichever way you look at it , swine flu has been around far longer than we are being told. The link above alone proves that . The 'Malcolm in the Middle' thing just seems to confirm my thoughts and conclusions . Swine flu IS a created flu , at least half a dozen virologists have said this now . I am completely sure in my mind that it was released into the Mexican community for socio political reasons . It is just as plain as day , that the US, AND !! the UK government are playing some terrible game with our lives. The US government were worried about Mexicans flooding into the US, as oil prices sky rocketed and oil from Mexico runs out . Wipe out a few million and hey ho problem solved. The whole thing really stinks to high heaven .
IF you have a NEW ?? virus that is capable of spreading, and killing millions , why ?, WHY ? do they keep all borders open ? why do nearly all countries including the UK government, continue to allow flights (without any health checks ) to and from every part of the world , including Mexico , where it is supposed to have originated ?.
WHY ?, when they know that the worst spread of swine flu is among children , do they continue to keep all schools open 'UNTIL' pupils start going down with swine flu ?? They tell us that the kids would continue to play together at home and it would spread exactly the same !!! How can that be right ? If you have a school that has 1000 kids in it , that is 1000 children playing and mixing with each other at every play time and dinner time. Then they sit in confined class rooms in batches of 20-30 or so . Then they go home and pass it to other members of the family who inturn go to other schools or to work . Then those same people (the government) tell us that after the summer holidays when the kids go back to school there will be a huge rise in the cases of swine flu !!! They contradict their own policy every time they open their mouths . How many times have you seen crowds of 1000 children running round the streets playing ??? Answer NEVER . Remember these are the same kids that the government are telling us, that stay at home in front of the pc playing games and don't go out and mix like we used to ???
I have read much on this now , and the only conclusion that can be arrived at logically , is that it IS a man made virus , and that it has been released and allowed to spread for political reasons . Other conclusions just do not hold any weight at all. Each and every step of the 'Pandemic' so far you have to ask yourself, Why did they do that ? Why ? did they allow that ?
The answer boils down to £££$$$ . GSK set to make £1.8 BILLION out of the vaccine. Baxter's set make the same £1.8 BILLION.... thats funny two different companies both going to make EXACTLY the same amount of money out of the swine flu vaccine???? (Coincidence ????? me thinks not!!!) it is all some terrible genocidal game they are playing , with the added bonus they make billions doing it . It all seems like a done deal !!! Make millions out of Tamiflu before the use by date runs out on the huge stocks in store !!!! then make BILLIONS and BILLIONS on the vaccine ( that would be the same vaccine that was patented in 2007 ) . But don't worry anyone ... you are safe ... you KNOW you can trust your government ??????????? You KNOW they are working on your behalf ????????
cheers
Russ
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I hope now that the more sceptical among us will realise that we are not just imagining all
this, and that you really cannot trust the Governments to tell you the truth. Money is their only
Goal, and status of course. ::)
Sad World, reality is pretty harsh, people are just problems to the people who believe they are in power. ::)
Thank Earth for Smallholding ;D ;D ;D ;D
Julie
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http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/health/Swine_flu/article6797993.ece
Below is a comment taken from the above link :
The swine-flu vaccine being tested contains thimerosol a mercury-based preservative used in vaccines,
eye-drops etc. It has been blamed for
autism in vaccine damaged children.
Many people are allergic to it. photo
3 of 50 clearly shows this.
http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/UK-News/Swine-Flu-Vaccine-Human-Trials-Begin-In-Germany-To-Get-Injection-Out-By-October/Article/200908215361419?lpos=UK_News_Second_UK_News_Article_Teaser_Region_7&lid=ARTICLE_15361419_Swine_Flu_Vaccine%3A_Human_Trials_Begin_In_Germany_To_Get_Injection_Out_By_October_
cheers
Russ
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I for one WILL NOT be vaccinated nor will I allow my kids to be given it :o
(They have had all their other ones for MMR etc, I'm not a total nutter - honest!)
Now, I know there will be gasps of horror and mutterings of 'bad parent' etc but I'm VERY suspicious (some may say paranoid ::)) of this vaccine and the fact that they're SO keen that everyone has it - WHY ? What is in it ? The fact that this flu has been 'constructed' in a lab somewhere using god only knows what makes me wonder WTF is in the vaccine to guard against it.
I TOTALLY agree with Russ on this one and fear that the vaccine is also a convienient way to enforce a bit of population control on the governments part. "Oh, but we're a western country - where people are free to make their own choices, not a dictatorship like China" Yeah right ! It's the same as farming "We'll make sure our farmers are doing things right so we can take the moral high ground, meanwhile we'll bring the industry to it's knees by importing cheap crap, but it's ok cos we're not responsible for how THAT meat was raised" They are controlling us in every aspect of our lives and well...............................I've always been a rebel ;)
Sorry for the rant !
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/may/16/newsid_2913000/2913807.stm
remember that ...???? how we were told again and again how 'SAFE' our meat was !!!! we even saw John Gummer feeding his own daughter a beefburger ....To date at least 194 people have died of BSE , but as is being shown on the news today , there is no mandatory test by postmortem for BSE . How many have really died with CJD (the human form of BSE) ?
Do you remember the government telling us, they were sorry because they got it wrong ? and that beef wasn't safe ? have they ever said that ? WE WERE WRONG !!!! not that I can remember ...
Some 50 million people were exposed to BSE ,( which was brought about by government recommendation of best practice in animal feed stuffs ...they said it was ok to feed cows ... HERBIVORES ... other dead cows , sheep etc etc ....) and there is no way of knowing how many are really infected with this time bomb.
This is just one more instance that proves the fact that our government ( who ever that may be ?) is corrupt to the core ....have only one thing on their mind ... MONEY, for them, and the big companies that they work for . They are liars !!! they are conmen !!! they are thieves !!! they are MURDERERS !!! Anyone who trusts them is a fool ....
No doubt there will be an MP somewhere who will read this and disagree with my comment ...well take me to court and prove different !!!!!
cheers
Russ
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Don't forget the media and how much money they make out of a nice panic never mind a pandemic
As I said on another topic I didn't get my kids vaccinated but it was only after my oldest daughter spent 2 weeks in hospital after her first mmr jag at the age of 2. They didn't think that she would walk again. - and there's another safe drug!!!!!
She's 18 now and fine but it was very scary and was a big lesson in trusting the authorities.
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http://www.vaccinetruth.org/new_page_4.htm
that is whats in the vaccine !!!!!! and in that link see what the CDC says about thimerosal :
Two groups are most vulnerable to methyl Mercury: The fetus and pregnant women. A premature baby is more vulnerable because the baby tends to be very small and the baby’s brain is not as developed as a full term baby. Children may be at higher risk of Mercury exposure than adults because they eat more per pound of body weight and because they may be inherently more sensitive than adults since their nervous systems are still developing. The guidelines for Mercury exposure are based on the amount of Mercury per weight. This helps estimate reference level of exposure according to the person's weight. The nervous system is very sensitive to all forms of Mercury. Methyl Mercury and metal vapors are more harmful than other forms, because more Mercury in these forms reaches the brain. Exposure to high levels of metallic, inorganic, or organic Mercury can permanently damage the brain, kidneys, and developing fetus. Effects on brain functioning may result in irritability, shyness, tremors, changes in vision or hearing, tics and memory problems. Short-term exposure to high levels of metallic Mercury vapors may cause effects including lung damage, nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, increases in blood pressure or heart rate, skin rashes, and eye irritation. Thimerosal can never really be completely removed from vaccines because its needed in the manufacturing process. According to John Moore, a leading Mercury/Dental health researcher, “vaccines are so toxic and so un-sterile that this is a way of sterilizing them so they can be injected and not have the person die on the spot.”
Two groups are most vulnerable to methyl Mercury: The fetus and pregnant women. (the very people that are in the front line for the vaccine !!!! ) Only one instance of a European government, that I can think of, that has carried out such outrageous experiments on ordinary civilian people in such truly huge proportions , is Hitler's , in the genocide of 1939-1945. He killed about 6 million ...seems our one is after BILLIONS !!!!
cheers
Russ
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I never really was a rebel when I was younger, it is since I moved to Ireland and realised that after 9 years with a INC. Corporates were really bad news. I was suffering reactive stress due to workload, and all they waned to do was replace me because they were losing major sales -and I was just a number.
Then, when I got Cancer and my life was in the hands of the medical profession, who gave me a brand new major operation, only carried out 18 times, which has since caused me to be unable to work full time due to several disabilities, and I still require too much medication, and even more evasive major surgery in the future, that I realised you cannot trust the medical profession - its down to money again.
I really became a rebel with a cause then, and I was part of a campaign with the Cancer Society, which finally got the Irish Government to give free smear tests for all women in Ireland - before that you had to pay 40 euro and had to take yourself in, no reminder, nothing. GP's would not do the test because they didn't get paid, and women did not want to go to the STD Clinics for a smear test!
If you don't shout, and get together to fight the system, it will be forever corrupt, and it seems to me, over the last 20 years, that the whole position is getting worse. A few good men in Government positions are drowning because of the bad ones, and are outnumbered so keep quiet. >:(
Better to have our eyes open I think, and protect ourselves and our families from their money games. ::)
Julie ;D
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http://thenewsjunkie.com/2009/04/flashback-swine-flu-psas-from-the-1970s/
you guys will like this, lets all go get vaccinated and Guillain-Barré syndrome. This new improved vaccine carries with it the same risks.
Happy hipp neither me nor my kids will be having THIS VACCINE. Nor did my kids get MMR I have 2 friends with autistic children, they convulsed shorty after the MMR vaccine and were never right after, both kids were perfectly normal before.
Around the time my oldest was due her MMR i worked with a number of doctors and nurses, none of them were having their kids vaccinated, that was enough of a warning for me
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There are 12 families here, a lot of them friends and aquaintances, with autistic children, all of whom had the vaccination MMR, and all the children affected are boys between 6 and 15.
My Daughter had all her injections, but that was before I suffered illnesses and saw the truth
behind the medical profession (Money and backhanders for promoting certain drugs).
We were lucky and Tara is fine.
I would not put myself or my daughter forward for any vaccination. Especially Swine Flu. I think it is
wise to avoid anything that has not been thoroughly tested over a number of years, with true evidence
(if there is still such a thing) of its usefulness.
Julie
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I've said it once before, and i'll say it again - there's big money in sickness.
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Oh and another thing - http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/06/17/AR2009061703271.html
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http://uk.news.yahoo.com/21/20090821/thl-world-facing-swine-flu-explosion-d831572.html
"We only have a short time period to reach the state of preparedness deemed necessary," WHY ? ... how long have they known about swine flu now ?
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/18/20090820/thl-vaccinate-kids-parents-to-manage-flu-5effa79.html
the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) said children and pregnant women should be among the first to receive a swine flu vaccine.
Would this be the same CDC that said this ?
"Two groups are most vulnerable to 'methyl Mercury': The fetus and pregnant women. A premature baby is more vulnerable because the baby tends to be very small and the baby’s brain is not as developed as a full term baby."
The vaccine contains Thimerosal.
Thimerosal is a Mercury compound. Thimerosal is also known as 'ethyl Mercury'. Researchers and lawmakers worry that not enough is known about ethylmercury, the kind of mercury in flu vaccines. For years, health officials assumed that ethylmercury was less toxic to infants than methylmercury, which poses a risk to pregnant women .
roll up, roll up, pregnant women and children first , come get your flu jab !!!! thats the UNTESTED flu jab that contains POISON ... MERCURY !!!! roll up , roll up , Pregnant women and children first !!!!
YOUR COUNTRY NEEDS YOU ...... DEAD !!!!!
Russ
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All joking aside, it seems to be on the brink of becoming very, very serious. The question is, when do you call a halt to any interaction, and batton down the hatches. When you do, who will work to pay the bills? If a huge slice of the population goes down, who will run those nice nuclear power stations you guys have accross the water from us? Answers on a postcard please to Gordon Brown, 10 Downing Street.
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I have been saying all along it IS SERIOUS ... ::) , but with the first death in Wales (55 year old woman ) and another in NI , people round here have just gone ...eh what ?.... oh my god !!!!
I only have a phone bill to pay , BB and phone all in, £93 per quarter , thats it ....F
Food , I have enough to get me through till about April next year if I didn't buy anymore from today ... As for the nuclear power stations ...well fingers crossed they keep them sorted for a while yet ....but we got zapped here in Wales when Chernobyl went pop , still here !!!
If TSHTF it won't make much difference to me really ....best of luck to everyone else.....
cheers
Russ