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Community => Coffee Lounge => Topic started by: honeyend on November 03, 2013, 11:25:38 pm

Title: Horsemeat, Radio 4 The Food programme
Post by: honeyend on November 03, 2013, 11:25:38 pm
Broadcast today with an update, http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b03g8dg9 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b03g8dg9)
As usual its nobodies fault. I went in to Aldi today just for a mosy. Would never by meat from there anyway but the programme confirmed all my worst fears. If its not a joint don't buy it how ever hard up you are.
Title: Re: Horsemeat, Radio 4 The Food programme
Post by: EcoGypsy on November 04, 2013, 09:29:14 am
I got a feeling it was going on for years untill we found out. Puts me off meat completely!
Title: Re: Horsemeat, Radio 4 The Food programme
Post by: hughesy on November 04, 2013, 11:59:08 am
Nothing wrong with horse meat. The issue is that you didn't know you were eating it or where it came from. And that it could have been contaminated with veterinary medicines etc that we don't normally allow into the food chain. If it's properly labelled and traceable there's no reason not to eat horse.
Title: Re: Horsemeat, Radio 4 The Food programme
Post by: lachlanandmarcus on November 04, 2013, 12:24:57 pm
Nothing wrong with horse meat. The issue is that you didn't know you were eating it or where it came from. And that it could have been contaminated with veterinary medicines etc that we don't normally allow into the food chain. If it's properly labelled and traceable there's no reason not to eat horse.
Agree with this. I love my horses to bits and would have no issue with horse meat being sold (altho I would only support it with specialised abbatoirs and tight regulation of transport because of the highly strung flight species nature of horses making them very prone to high stress levels ). However I would also like the choice not to buy it.


There are tens of thousands of unwanted horses and ponies in the UK, mainly over bred moorland ponies or  illegally grazed vast herds of coloured horses of dubious confirmation. The only solution for the numbers is euthanasia, as rescue orgs can't cope. Better they go to feed hard pressed families (horsemeat being low fat and high in protein lean meat) than incinerated.


I suspect they won't find much bute drug in those that have got into the food chain.....cos bute costs money and I don't think the fly grazed population benefit from much of that sort of treatment...:-(((
Title: Re: Horsemeat, Radio 4 The Food programme
Post by: honeyend on November 04, 2013, 01:57:15 pm
I have no objection to anyone eating horsemeat as long it has the traceability and protection that other meat animals have (supposedly?). When they are using horsemeat to 'improve' poor quality beef, and the animal has no real traceability so you have no idea where the animal has come from its a worry. If 1000kg of horsemeat and 1000kg of beef are in a plant it should be easy to add up and make sure 2000kg of 'beef' do not come out, but it seems not.
Title: Re: Horsemeat, Radio 4 The Food programme
Post by: Lesley Silvester on November 04, 2013, 10:32:37 pm
I would eat it as well but I'm another one who wants to know what I am eating. It should be my choice.
Title: Re: Horsemeat, Radio 4 The Food programme
Post by: cloddopper on November 04, 2013, 11:06:06 pm
I say bring back the horsemeat gunge in all the products of every company  its been there for years & years  ,  it was the only thing in the sausages and lasagne etc. that had any taste  :roflanim:
Title: Re: Horsemeat, Radio 4 The Food programme
Post by: john and helen on November 05, 2013, 01:56:33 am
same here, seeing as i eat wild rabbit, pheasant, goose, duck , a bit of horse meat would go down a treat, i often wonder what gets sprayed on veg,  :roflanim:

Dad often stuck a gurt big dollop of horse sh*t in the veg patch.... and his veg was BUTE iful  :roflanim:
Title: Re: Horsemeat, Radio 4 The Food programme
Post by: chrismahon on November 05, 2013, 03:24:58 am
Horse meat here is too expensive to buy, but regularly on the shelves. One thing I noticed shortly after we arrived in France was the complete lack of pre-processed foods. You can't get frozen Lasagne, processed meat products and ready meals. Minced meat  is usually minced from a cut of your choice by the butcher, same as beef burgers -made while you wait. So there is little opportunity here for the unscrupulous to slip in some dodgy meat.


So the answer is to stop buying convenience stuff and make everything from scratch. Then you can be certain of what is in it. Problem is no-one working can afford the time to do that. I's not just the cooking but gathering all the ingredients. Having said that, since we stopped watching TV completely, we have a lot more time available.