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Community => Coffee Lounge => Topic started by: tizaala on October 25, 2013, 05:23:27 pm
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http://bbc.in/1blYrjG (http://bbc.in/1blYrjG)
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Oh goody.
Will look forward to that! :raining:
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Email from our insurance company yesterday with list of precautions to take in readiness for flood in light of this forecast.
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Parts of the UK face being battered by hurricane-speed winds which threaten to rip down trees, cause transport chaos, and cut power supplies, forecasters have warned.
The risk of a severe storm has been highlighted by the Met Office, which it said could see gusts of more than 80mph, especially on exposed coasts in the South.
A storm is classed as a hurricane when it has sustained winds of 74mph or higher.
Unsettled weather is expected to continue into the weekend with further spells of heavy rain and strong winds.
But moving into Sunday night and Monday morning, the Met Office warn there is a risk of a 'significant' storm developing.
Based on current predictions, some areas could see some of their strongest winds for a number of years it says.
A strong jet stream and warm air close to the UK, are both contributing to the development and strength of the storm.
Eddie Carroll, Chief Forecaster at the Met Office, said: "There is still a chance this storm may take a more southerly track and miss the UK, bringing impacts elsewhere in northern Europe, but people should be aware there is a risk of severe weather and significant disruption."
Chris England, meteorologist at the Sky News weather centre, said: "There’s the potential for some exceptionally strong winds late Sunday through Monday morning, particularly over the southern half of the UK, with potentially damaging gusts of 80-90mph in exposed parts.
"But we are really talking about something that doesn’t exist yet, so the forecast of the track, the timing, and the intensity are still open to change.
"It’s really a warning of potential at the moment and something to keep an eye on."
Normally Atlantic storms of this type develop much further to the west of the UK and are waning in strength by the time they reach the UK and Ireland.
This storm is more unusual, developing much closer to the UK and potentially moving across the country while still in its most powerful phase.
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Sounds lovely doesn't it :gloomy:
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Guess who has not yet finished digging in the new polytunnel :innocent: - which looks out over the South Coast. My neighbours might have an early Christmas present :roflanim: The previous owners of this property had a greenhouse blow away across the fields. M Poppins.
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We're on a hilltop exposed to the north, west and east and braced for high winds all year. This is some of what we do when anything over Force 8 is forecast. OK, so move henhouses into shelter - ours have ring bolts through the frame and are chained to a fence. Put everything that can get blown about under cover, chock the wheels of trailers, take lids off compost and dustbins or tie them down, tie down tarpaulins through every securing site or, even better, take them down completely. If you have a barn with doors on the windward side open them and let the wind go through, put feeders and drinkers inside the coop so the stock doesn't have to venture forth. Stock up on matches, logs, firelighters and candles. Work out what you're going to do if you have an incubator or heat lamps running. Make sure the emergency generator is in working order. Move vehicles and so on away from trees. Make sure your chainsaw is in working order. Sit tight!
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So, something else nice to look forward to :-J , at least you get an hour extra sleep or should do.....Hope no one has any damage, I suppose it will be our turn next up here in Scotland, to get some odd weather!!
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Thanks for the tips Marches.
I'm trying to decide whether to leave the sheep in the field or bring them in? What does everyone else do?
We have ridiculous numbers of trees, (previous owner was growing himself an arboretum) quite a lots of large ones and our tree surgeons are booked in for the end of next week :P which is less than helpful timing so lots of :fc: here.
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Don't think I would worry about the sheep. My dad had 35 cows in a wooded area in hurricane of the 80's .... all just walked out of what was left of wood the following morning!
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So, something else nice to look forward to :-J , at least you get an hour extra sleep or should do.....Hope no one has any damage, I suppose it will be our turn next up here in Scotland, to get some odd weather!!
Do the clocks go back tonight?
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Yes the clocks go back tonight.
RED WARNING
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I've just checked my sheep - they are all tucked right into the base of the hedge in a line, not so daft :) .
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Well the rain and wind has started here.
The ducks and geese are away for the night, sheep seem happy in the files and I have strapped up the bee hives so if the worst happens and the hive gets blown over the bees have a slight chance of surviving. Not much else I can do. Fingers crossed everyone will be OK.
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I suspect my sheep are far safer tucked in under the hedge than in the barn on top of the hill. hope its another example of the over the top predictions of doom we get regularly about life - but not looking forward to it- my terrier HATES strong wind and howls all night.
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Well I suspect that we will be flooded in again but that's not anything new.
Watching Twister on the telly to get in the mood! :D
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My biggest worry is the sycamore tree that is just the other side of our garden fence. In the hurricanes of 88, my brother had his chimney blow off and through his roof. They had to move out for six months while the repairs were under way. My SIL said she was never, ever going to nag him again. She had been on at him for ages to decorate a bedroom for their eldest - then aged three - to move into. The chimney went clean through that room and ended up in the kitchen. If my niece had moved into that room, she would have died.
The never, ever nagging again lasted at least three months. :roflanim:
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Thanks Marches. :thumbsup:
First tree down ...... squashed my rotary washing line flat.
Sun shining though.
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We had trees cut down, with permission, after some high winds just blew a branch and just missed my neighbours shed, so, we took them down and after the next high wind I went out to feed the chickens and saw our 2 chimney pots on the wobble!!! it was a bank holiday so we called the fire brigade out, thankfully they did not fall onto the roof etc like a house down the road had, that appeared to take ages to get fixed again. Chimney pots often come loose due to the pull of a fire etc, they shrink the cement from heat then cold and 2 pots one hot one cold (I am talking rubbish but hope you understand) so now that's done, never got our Ariel put back so we use indoor aerials, also the neighbours fence fell on our car, I never claimed for that one, they had a lot of ridge tiles off too.....I think they were 80mph winds....
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All the animals are fed , watered , hayed and strawed up, all buildings shut and secured , car moved to a safe place , all loose stuff put away off the yard , dogs and cats are locked in , torches at the ready. Not a lot else to do except hope it's all OK in the morning...
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its a bit of a weird build up, one minute the tree is all over the place, wind howling through, the next, everything is still ......
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Assuming its gone over now - how was it for you?
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neighbours green house and the fence took a battering, so not to bad in the scale of things,
nature can be very impressive sometimes,
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4 disappointed children that wanted to experience a real hurricane (!) we had some rain here in Worcs and our kitchen floor was partially flooded but we have missed it here really. Hope everyone on the south coast and Heathrow etc areas are all ok :fc:
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I let the dog out at 2am and although it was raining it was very still. I thought it was the quiet before the storm but it never hit us.
I hope everyone is as lucky as we were.
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Not too bad here (CB7), altrough it was blowing well, especially about hour ago. Hopefully that will be all? :fc:
Read on the news that wind is almost 100mph in some places... Starts to rain again here... :gloomy:
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Here on the south coast, close to Portsmouth, we had gusts of 75 mph, and boy was it noisy all night. At 2.20 I woke up to hear an enormous tree going over, and in daylight found a colossal old macracarpa down, one which was well past it and we'd been thinking of felling anyway. Very annoyingly it has taken with it a beautiful mature sweet chestnut and one of my favourite big apple trees, still with lots of unripe apples. Well at least for once we'll be able to pick them from the very top branches rather than waiting for them all to fall down as windfalls! The pigs will be happy today. I'm amazed we didn't lose more trees; a neighbour has lost a large ash though which has fallen into our property. And we had 45 mm of rain !! So definitely very stormy down here, but now the sun is out and the wind easing off. Not a patch on our 1987 damage thank heavens.
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hope its another example of the over the top predictions of doom we get regularly about life - but not looking forward to it- my terrier HATES strong wind and howls all night.
round these parts was exactly as this- Saturday night was much windier. Got a Buddleia to replant but other wise nothing of any note at all
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Hi Tamsaddle, Much the same here on the coast near Bridport. The only damage here is an old massive willow which has come down but luckily into a hedge which broke the fall. The chickens in the house underneath couldn't wait to get out this morning :o . Nothing like the 1987 damage :relief: ( no roof and no power for 3 weeks). Hope everyone else is as lucky as we have been. :fc:
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Nothing like the 1987 damage :relief: ( no roof and no power for 3 weeks). Hope everyone else is as lucky as we have been. :fc:
Without wishing to diminish those personal tragedies that will happen with any natural event there really does seem to be an ever increasing hyperbole from the media over events like this. 'The worst storm since 87 etc.' The map I posted yesterday morning clearly showed the track of the storm but they were still threatening damnation here in Wales where it didn't even rattle the slates. Despite that clear map from the Met Office BBC Wales still had a reporter down in Cardiff trying to 'bull up' a non event into a crisis!
Even the Met Office TV forecasts were quite restrained last night but the TV News and Newspapers (no doubt - I don't read them) were trying to make a drama out of what is a fairly normal event. I turned on Breakfast TV to see some reporter twit down in Dover stood in a bit of nice morning sun with cars going up and down the prom trying to make out how bad it was.
Again apologies to those that have suffered but the build was hysterical nonsense of the media's making.
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Nothing like the 1987 damage :relief: ( no roof and no power for 3 weeks). Hope everyone else is as lucky as we have been. :fc:
Without wishing to diminish those personal tragedies that will happen with any natural event there really does seem to be an ever increasing hyperbole from the media over events like this. 'The worst storm since 87 etc.' The map I posted yesterday morning clearly showed the track of the storm but they were still threatening damnation here in Wales where it didn't even rattle the slates. Despite that clear map from the Met Office BBC Wales still had a reporter down in Cardiff trying to 'bull up' a non event into a crisis!
Even the Met Office TV forecasts were quite restrained last night but the TV News and Newspapers (no doubt - I don't read them) were trying to make a drama out of what is a fairly normal event. I turned on Breakfast TV to see some reporter twit down in Dover stood in a bit of nice morning sun with cars going up and down the prom trying to make out how bad it was.
Again apologies to those that have suffered but the build was hysterical nonsense of the media's making.
couldn't have said it better
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I think of it as the "may contain nuts" syndrome My assumption is that as we live in such a litigious age everyone is frantically covering their arses and as long as a warning has been issued then no further action can be taken, regardless of whether the warning is proportionate to the risk. Fair enough, but to me it leads to complacency about real risk, eliminates the need for common sense and personal responsibility and in the long run surely makes us less safe. I know that a bag of peanuts has nuts in it, that coffee is hot, that in the autumn and winter it rains and snows- continuous warnings about every facet of existence from bird flu to a windy night seem to ignore thousands of years of intellectual development..
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And if there were no warnings you would have moaned even louder, An FB friend has just had 15 trees down on her lane, and has gone out to look for her french windows. A lot of people were glad of the early warning .
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Our friend in Herts has had her massive chimney crash to the ground and a chap in Watford and girl in Kent killed by trees. So def out of the norm I think, tho probably a little exaggerated.
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I don't suppose the girl in Kent would have said the warnings were exaggerated , Or the 99mph wind recorded at the needles , Just be grateful for the early warning this time
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I just wish wish wish that 14 year old boy in Newhaven had listened to the warnings and taken them seriously. Those poor parents.
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We had a gust that was 99mph at the needles Isle of Wight. So it was a tad windy here in Lymington.
Guess where i had to drive back from yesterday South Wales!!! We had our sheep AGM in Fishguard and the M4 was interesting to say the least. A little blowy and i found myself on the hard shoulder a couple of times when i didn't want to be there!!
Made it home eventually but very hard journey.
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Last night , 1am , it was raining a bit , but didn't even need a coat when i walked the dogs .
Back in at 1.30 , had a coffee , went to bed , read some of John Pilgers book , ' The New Rulers of The World ' , went to sleep , woke up this morning , 7am , nothing , just a normal morning !
Made a coffee , read some more Pilger .
Just breezey here now .
Hope all are ok , (is that right ? , it sounds wrong when i say it ! ) .
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I don't suppose the girl in Kent would have said the warnings were exaggerated , Or the 99mph wind recorded at the needles , Just be grateful for the early warning this time
The photo on the BBC site of what had been the static caravan were heartbreaking. So very sad.
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No power for five hours, one trellis fence down in the garden, my house moved twice in the evening (no foundations) lots of windfalls to collect and the tree surgeons are busy - but gorgeous weather here in Surrey now.
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Storms are normal for us in the winter. You prepare as best as you can. Weather is something you learn to respect not moan about because your flight or train is not running. going to watch the waves is just plain stupid. Why was that poor boy out after all the warnings. I feel for the families who have lost people .
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Absolutely nothing here in Shropshire. We did have a bit of wind and rain in the late afternoon early evening but the rest passed us by, despite the Met office map showing winds of 16 mph in this area. I rang my mum this morning as she lives on the East Sussex coast and she said that things were fine there (in 1987, my brother's chimney went through a bedroom and ended up in the kitchen) although it was almost impossible to walk along the sea front as it was so windy.
Feel for those who lost lives and for their families.
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I suppose you have to think of it in terms of no warnings = more deaths and lots of damage, sensible warnings = some deaths and less damage (sensible people taking sensible precautions), very strong (and perhaps over-dramatic) warnings= least number of deaths and least possible damage, due to even the doziest members of the population having noticed that something unusual was about to happen and being a bit more careful. Forewarned and forearmed, yes? It's a fact though, most folk are so convinced that they're protected from everything in their own little mod cons bubble that they're completely confused and indignant about the forces of nature. Look how everyone gets if there's half an inch of snow, it's as if no-one has ever seen it before let alone having a clue how to drive in it.
I think we got something of the side swipe here up by Edinburgh, there was about an hour when the rain was torrential and there was a lot of wind, then it calmed down again. On the other hand that's a pretty average Monday evening here in October, could have had nothing to do with the storm.
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We went down to Stoneleigh NAC on Sunday and coming back up the M1 to Yorkshire was a bit windier & we had spells of torrential rain, but once past Sheffield all was calm & sunny. We had nothing up here so bit of a none event but we had moved some of the big pot trees, benches etc into shed and wieghed down the bird tables in preparation, at least it got us motivated to have a tidy up :innocent: outside. Like somebody said the Met office were damned if they did and damned if they didn't warn us.
Mandy :pig: