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Livestock => Pigs => Topic started by: Button End Beasts on August 13, 2013, 10:12:58 pm
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Hi,
I have a friend wanting some of my weaners. They live about 2 hours drive away, ~100 miles. What do they need to transport over this distance? I've never had to go more than 45 mins to get weaners, so I don't know if there's any restrictions on slightly longer journeys.
Thanks in advance!
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Anyone transporting livestock over 40 miles/65km needs a Transporter Authorisation certificate from Animal Health (valid for 5 years) and also needs to sit a C&G Certificate of Competence test (usually at a local college - cost is about £50). It's very straightforward and easy if you read the guidance notes beforehand. You have to sit separate ones for each species you wish to transport. See www.nptc.org.uk (http://www.nptc.org.uk)
Copies of the documentation need to be carried in the vehicle.
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We transported ours from Cotswolds to Norfolk back in February/March. We had the transport certificate but nothing else. We had to report when we arrived home and anywhere we had stopped on route and for how long.
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there are exceptions to the licence ie 1 handler to 1 pig, they are being kept solely for non profit i.e. the meat will be for your own consumption not being sold on.
as in all situations its only when your stopped and asked to produce the licence you find out how much trouble your in.
as liz said the test is easy and you only have to sit it once the renewed licence gets posted out to you every 5 years. i only did mine for pigs mum did all species she has never been asked to see it i have only ever had to produce mine once.
iirc i paid about £90 but they came out to me saving traveling time and cost.
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there are exceptions to the licence ie 1 handler to 1 pig, they are being kept solely for non profit i.e. the meat will be for your own consumption not being sold on.
Exactly if they are getting two weaners and there are two of them coming for them all they need is an AML from you to take them away, they don't need to go thro all the bo****ks of officaldom paperwork to get transporters licences. I have spoken to WIT at length on this subject and so long as your pig activities are not commericial (ie it does not say pig farmer on your passport) you don't need all the 'guff' as suggested above.
Most of our pair weaners go home in this way normally in the back part of an estate car or hatchback with a plastic sheet and straw which can easily be removed and burnt.
hth
Mandy :pig:
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When we got our 2 weaners about a month ago I didn't even think that the transportation might be an issue. Luckily it appears that because these are just for us then I didn't need to worry about anything.
According to Google the distance for ours was apparently about 70 miles and it took about 90 minutes I think. They were completely relaxed once we got going and were no bother - they were almost asleep by the time we got home I think. We used a dog cage that was borrowed from our local vets as recommended by the breeder we bought them from.
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It is just another stealth tax, people panic and think they have to hand over wads of cash to money grabbing officials. As Mandy says it's a load of Bo***cks. Don't have one and won't get one. :rant:
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We exceeded the 65km with our last weaners. After speaking to Defra they kindly sent us the details of exemptions, which as already stated by Kja, as long as not for profit do exist. PM me your e-mail and I'll forward to you.
Regards
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As previously said, no problem if they're just for you :thumbsup:
But I can see why there's so much confusion - when we moved back down here with ours, our lovely AH man in Scotland advised us that there was no problem - I had already planned-in our stops for watering & checking, along with drink & pee breaks for us & the dogs :relief:
I carried the scoteid form with us, as I had young home-bred gilts with us that were not tagged, logged back in when we (finally :tired: ) got here - all ok :thumbsup:
But ...
when I logged with eaml2 I got a call from AH down here giving me a right earful about not having a registered herd number (didn't realise our Scottish one was no good in Wales :innocent: ) & did I know that I should have taken a "trailer driving test" ? - ha ha I said - flattery won't work with me - I've held a driving licence long enough not to need to do it :eyelashes:
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Exactly if they are getting two weaners and there are two of them coming for them all they need is an AML from you to take them away, they don't need to go thro all the bo****ks of officaldom paperwork to get transporters licences. I have spoken to WIT at length on this subject and so long as your pig activities are not commericial (ie it does not say pig farmer on your passport) you don't need all the 'guff' as suggested above.
Most of our pair weaners go home in this way normally in the back part of an estate car or hatchback with a plastic sheet and straw which can easily be removed and burnt.
hth
Mandy :pig:
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Totally agree Mandy, what I will say is that the plastic sheet should cover up the sides as well.
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We sat our test and have all species except chickens. It is just common sense multiple choice questions. You would have to have no knowledge of livestock to fail.
Agree with Mandy
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I wrote down all the questions I could remember immediately after my test - 21 of the 27 - there all multiple choice.
Got my neighbour's 8 year old child to go through and answer them, she got 18 right - so if an 8 year old with no farm experience would pass the test you do wonder just how much life is just box ticking nowadays !
Did the test 'cos we're commercial, but total waste of everybody's money, proves nothing !