The Accidental Smallholder Forum
Livestock => Cattle => Topic started by: shygirl on July 26, 2013, 11:31:58 pm
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could someone tell me the name of the Ifor Willliams cattle trailer please? the standard size one.
what price would you expect to pay for a reasonable condition one?
thanks
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TA 510 expect to pay 1500 to 2500 approx for average
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thanks very much
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You can get a new 12' TA510 cattle spec for £3800 +VAT.
Doesn't make spending too much on a secondhand one worth it if it needs new brakes or tyres.
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To add to this I personally think Ifor Williams is loosing it's way the last few years new trailers the partition has to be tied to hold closed due to to thin metal used. The plastic hinges that hold the vent break very easily just in normal operation, and this by the person who paid for the trailer not just an employee, the older (15 year) box is more robust although the brakes have never been up to the modern trailer.
Now to be fair that was last year and the newer versions have resolved these problems, something I won't be looking at for a few years, but this does mean these lower quality trailers will be on the market wanting to be sold.
I've you are in a market for a trailer take a look at Hudson, they seem a lot more solid, like the Ifor's of 10-20 years ago.
They also have a drop down front for when running with an empty load and reducing the drag.
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how many cattle can fit in this size? im guessing 2 or 3? (dexter /shetland size cows) - if it was to be towed by a L200 or discovery?
thanks
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Into a 12 foot ... Not dexter but real cattle :innocent:... 1 Bull or 2 cows with calfs or 3 steers/ fat bulls or 4 mix of steers and heifers
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We too are looking for a cattle trailer for dexters ......... definitely don't need one that big........... 10' max .......... my 8 month heifers were delivered in a 9' ........... they tucked so neatly into the front less-than-half I thought they weren't in there! .............. anyone recomend a Dexter sized model?
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We have an 8ft TA5, 6ft headroom from Ifor Williams- we keep Shetland cattle and this size is fine for us. We looked at a variety of second hand trailers at the sales, but the selling prices were very high and the condition of some was not good. We decided to buy a new one.
If you're considering towing with the L200 - remember the towing capacity is 2700kgs - so an 8 or 10 ft trailer would be a good choice.
Sue
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thanks very much.
a 10ft TA 510 is what i think im looking for. just need to remember that now.
many thanks.
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That's exactly what we have, can fit (devons so slightly bigger than your dexters) 2 cows and calves, or bull and couple of heifers, or a dozen reading calves... picked up an older one but in great condition for £1300 a few years ago...
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iv seen one ebay that has a partition for horses. has anyone used this sort of trailer for horses?
we have cattle and ponies (14.2) but our pony trailer isnt legal for cattle as it has no side gates. we dont need 2 trailers.
and could you use a trailer as an alternative for a crush for a bull? would the internal gate be strong enough? or is that a daft idea. i have presumed there is an internal gate but after looking at the brocheres i havent seen one. surely theres a partition to separate cattle from touching each other?
sorry for basic questions but iv never used one before.
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i wouldn't use a trailer as a crush, ever, the partition isn't robust enough and you'd have to be inside the box to do anything
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It is possible to buy a cross division for IW trailers - see the accessories tab as here:
http://www.iwt.co.uk/products/livestock/ta510?tab=accessories (http://www.iwt.co.uk/products/livestock/ta510?tab=accessories)
That looks to be fairly robust.
I wouldn't use the trailer as a crush substitute either - not safe at all. Better to get a dedicated crush, or use the old 'tie them up and squeeze them tight against a wall with a spare field gate' option.
We have a crush, and Steve has built a race from scaffold poles and a couple of field gates - the cattle go through this arrangement to access their shed and they are very familiar with it and not bothered about using it. Though there is the odd cow jam when one cow is going in and another wants to go out - someone has to engage reverse gear - that usually depends on their relative position in the herd...
Wouldn't be without it - makes jagging, tagging and worming so much easier - both for us and the cattle.
Sue
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We use an IW TA 510 for cattle, sheep and ponies (we've got the 7' headroom one). You can buy the proper horse partition to travel two horses side by side like in a normal horse trailer, but we just use the cattle gate and travel them like they would go in a wagon. I either tie them to the left hand side, or usually leave them loose, in which case they choose to face backwards.
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do you travel cattle with partitions if they are different ages/sex? can you put them in together if they are same age - even if they are horned? thanks
i wonder why you can get horse partitions for a cattle trailer but not side gates on a horse trailer. - or can you?
i have a perfectly good 505 pony trailer but its not legal for cattle without the sidegates.
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It might sound daft but can you not make some side gates. what do you want to do with your cows i used a horsebox to move my highlands from one field to another no problem use gates or hurdles.
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we need a trailer for a show coming up, plus abattoir - where im told trading standards can inspect the transport and refuse entry without side gates. i do worry if im not legal. :thinking:
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do you travel cattle with partitions if they are different ages/sex? can you put them in together if they are same age - even if they are horned? thanks
you don't need to partition off cattle who are a similar size, if a calf and cow though i'd partition the calf up front then walk the cow in. If a heifer was bulling i'd be inclined to split her from the others to prevent injuries. Always let the cattle mix at least 24 hours before loading preferably longer to allow for the herd to sort out hierarchy.
Horned cattle ... i de-horn mine but i have witnessed long horns and highland loaded together in boxes but don't mix de-horned cattle with horned cattle as the de-horned ones don't know the dangers.
Bulls i have only ever carried bulls either on there own or mixed with other bulls. Don't mix bulls with other cattle though or have a double partition between them.