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Livestock => Poultry & Waterfowl => Topic started by: Eastling on July 14, 2013, 03:13:41 pm
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Hi All
Looking at getting a mains energiser and poultry netting for our birds.
Have been recommended the Rutland brand, but this was for a battery powered energiser.
I have looked at the Rutland ESM602 Mains Fencer
Power Specifications:
Power Source: 220/230v Stored Energy: 2.5 Joules Max Power Use: 8.4 watt Open Volts: 11,000v Number of Nets: 25 Nets
Anyone ever had one...your thoughts please? Or other very good ones.
Also does anyone know of a cheap place to get poultry netting? 2 x 50m nets wanted.
Many Thanks
Eastling
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Hi Eastling. We have a Rutland battery unit and very good it is too -now 7 years old, but kept inside. It delivers 1.0J at 8,000V which is pretty powerful. So the unit you looked at is massive. How much netting are you putting down as 2.5J will take anything off its feet I would have thought. Ours was for very woolly sheep.
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We've got a Rutland battery powered job which has been running continuously, outside under a bucket, for three years without fail.
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The other smaller one was the ESM 402
Power Specifications
Power Source: 220/230v
Stored Energy: 1.4 Joules
Max Power Use: 6.4 watt
Open Volts: 10,200v
Number of Nets: 18 Nets
We plan to make two runs, one for the ducks, and another for the chickens. We are looking at two pens using two 50m nets.
We have two foxes that come and go on a regular basis. We were told that if you kill them...a new one will take its place quicker than you can blink (and agree with this logic) So just wanted to warn them, and make sure that if they get shocked, they remember it and then never try again.
Thats the plan :fc:
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Would think that'd be fine Eastling. It's all down to your earth circuit and the nets grounding. If they are no good it doesn't matter how big your energiser is. We doubled the number of stakes on our net but it still sagged. So we drove posts into the ground and pulled the net back tight to them -worked a treat. We also had three earth points along the length of the net.
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we have a mains rutland. its fab. really strong current, iv touched it a few times when touching something metal (rake/gate) and i seriously thought id die. not the same as batteries ones at all.
it was ages before i used it as i was sure it was complicated to set up but its not. a good metal stake, a rubber covered wire and a plug. we used an outside garden plug with no problems.
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Thanks for the replies. We wont have any problems plugging it in, as the field is very close to the house. No doubt will soon learn not to touch it after a few shocks!
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apparently you cant plug it in near a fusebox.
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I have one gives a good kick would recommend!
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Thanks again for the replies, hoping to get OH to help me set it up over the weekend :fc: :innocent:
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the only problem with the rutland super net is it's orange .. don't get me wrong it works and lasts and the reason it's orange is probably to make it highly visible .. just makes the corner of the field look a bit pikey
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The colour wont be a problem as the unit will be in the cellar. OH ordered a switch to turn it off at the gate into the field.
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The orange net colour fades a lot in a few years Hassle. Problem we had was rabbits eating it, for no good reason as it was a sheep net and they could walk through it.
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apparently you cant plug it in near a fusebox.
Hi,out of interest why cant you plug it in near a fuse box?
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apparently you cant plug it in near a fusebox.
Hi,out of interest why cant you plug it in near a fuse box?
iv no idea but it says so on the box of my electric mains set. (rutland)
that actually made it tricky for us as i wanting to pull it in inside the garage and connect to the fence 3 metres away. but as it was right next to the fuses for all the house, we put it in a different less convenient area.
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Hi, it must be something to do with electro magnetic forces,be interesting to find out more.Did it state a specific distance.
Graham.
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http://www.rutland-electric-fencing.co.uk/PageEarthingTipsAndAdvise.aspx (http://www.rutland-electric-fencing.co.uk/PageEarthingTipsAndAdvise.aspx)
this was similar to what was on the box of mine, but im sure it said not within * metres of the main fusebox.
iv no idea really.
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We have set up one set of netting for the ducks. You can hear it pulsing quite scary! Have to remember to turn off at the isolator before climbing over in the morning!
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Hi,scary to you,lets hope its terrifying to Mr.Fox.
Graham.
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Hope so Graham, but have just spent 10 mins catching them and putting them to bed, New routine they will hopefully get used to putting themselves to bed in time.
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My ducks never want to go to bed I have to chase them in with a torch every night.Luckily a few flashes of the torch sends them running.
Graham.
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Hotline make decent fences. We got ours off regency poultry. I've never tried a mains energizer although my Hotline one has both options. Agree with above about earthing. It makes a huge difference. I struggled for ages to get a good spark on the fence and assumed it was down to shorting etc. I bought a couple new earth spikes, joined them up and drove them in really deep and it totally transformed the performance. It even kills the growing grass now so that's helpful too.
Another tip in really dry spells is to pour a can of water into the soil around the earths as this will make a better contact.
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We got ours from Country store Direct the chap was very helpful. Ours seems to be working fine. The lodging sheep give it a wide birth! Our earth is in the shade but did have to use water to start with. The ducks are going to bed themselves now I just go out at 9.30 -10pm and drop the door down.