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Livestock => Sheep => Topic started by: thenovice on June 08, 2013, 09:31:31 am

Title: looking for the wormer guide
Post by: thenovice on June 08, 2013, 09:31:31 am
Morning all, looking for the guide to wormers that I saw on this site, if anyone has it. Also, opinions on tapeworm, I know some folks don't bother worming for it. Many thanks
Title: Re: looking for the wormer guide
Post by: petectid on June 09, 2013, 02:38:37 pm
I found this publication very useful.
http://www.eblex.org.uk/documents/content/returns/brp_l_sheepsbrp_manual_8_-_target_worm_control_for_better_re.pdf (http://www.eblex.org.uk/documents/content/returns/brp_l_sheepsbrp_manual_8_-_target_worm_control_for_better_re.pdf)
But its also worth consulting your vet for worming advice.
Title: Re: looking for the wormer guide
Post by: Dans on June 10, 2013, 12:32:16 pm
http://www.scops.org.uk/ (http://www.scops.org.uk/)
Title: Re: looking for the wormer guide
Post by: smudger on June 14, 2013, 01:51:08 pm
Nadis is also a good resource:


http://www.nadis.org.uk/parasite-forecast.aspx (http://www.nadis.org.uk/parasite-forecast.aspx)
Title: Re: looking for the wormer guide
Post by: fifixx on June 14, 2013, 02:52:14 pm
this one has all the names and companies who manufacture them all divided up into the 5 wormer groups http://www.eblex.org.uk/documents/content/returns/brp_parasite_control_guide010213.pdf (http://www.eblex.org.uk/documents/content/returns/brp_parasite_control_guide010213.pdf)
Title: Re: looking for the wormer guide
Post by: landroverroy on June 16, 2013, 04:02:24 am
With reference to tapeworms - our vet says that they are not of economic importance. If your sheep have them they are easily visible as white segments, very roughly measuring about 2mm x 3mm. I treat the sheep with panacur if I see a lot of them as I believe that any visible parasite cannot be totally without effect.
Title: Re: looking for the wormer guide
Post by: thenovice on June 16, 2013, 08:34:57 am
Thanks folks  :wave:
Title: Re: looking for the wormer guide
Post by: SallyintNorth on June 16, 2013, 09:24:48 am
The vet is right in that tapeworms mostly cause carcase damage in parts the abattoir remove - liver, lungs, etc - and you generally do not get any deduction for this. 

Also. treating the sheep has limited effect; the way to control tapeworm is to stop the eggs being there for the sheep to eat, which means controlling infected dog poo.

It is possible that a cyst could form where it would cause clinical symptoms, even death, so it's worth keeping all your dogs wormed properly so that there is no source of reinfection in the sheep.

Title: Re: looking for the wormer guide
Post by: FiB on June 16, 2013, 06:50:51 pm
Hi here's the leaflet http://www.scops.org.uk/alert_pdfs/KnowYourAnthelmintics201211062012083911.pdf (http://www.scops.org.uk/alert_pdfs/KnowYourAnthelmintics201211062012083911.pdf)
Title: Re: looking for the wormer guide
Post by: Blacksheep on June 16, 2013, 06:58:34 pm
Levitape is good for tapeworms - this is the Monezia species that you see segments of in the sheep poo, I think that this is different to tapeworm that Sally refers which causes hyatid disease and is spread by dogs, not sure that dogs have anything to do with transmitting the Monezia spps.
Although the Monezia sp don't cause death etc I find it difficult to believe that they don't affect how well lambs thrive so we tend to worm for it if we see it.  I think it was a Monezia spp tapeworm that was used in slimming tablets in the 1930s!

Title: Re: looking for the wormer guide
Post by: landroverroy on June 16, 2013, 10:44:57 pm
You're right. The monezia tapeworm is believed to be spread by pasture mites on the grass.
Title: Re: looking for the wormer guide
Post by: Blacksheep on June 17, 2013, 05:11:49 pm
I have been ringing suppliers for wormer prices today and interestingly spoke to one company who would only supply the amount of wormer that you need rather than oversupply wormer for the size of your flock. They are also a pharmacy and hence are able to dispense smaller quantities of wormers and don't need to sell whole bottles, I thought that their link may be of interest to people with smaller flocks whose vet doesn't offer this service and who end up buying more wormer etc than they need. I haven't come across a supplier offering to do this before.  I am waiting to hear back with some prices for part bottles.          http://www.murrayfarmcare.co.uk/Sheep/Sheep-Medicine/Sheep-Wormers/3376sc.aspx?page=1&sortby= (http://www.murrayfarmcare.co.uk/Sheep/Sheep-Medicine/Sheep-Wormers/3376sc.aspx?page=1&sortby=)

ps Landroverroy, yes it is the grass mites, we have a lot of old pasture so I am sure there are plenty of carrier mites lurking in it!
Title: Re: looking for the wormer guide
Post by: Bramblecot on June 17, 2013, 07:15:23 pm
Thanks for the tip re grass mites. 
We wormed our lambs  recently and 24 hours later one passed a huge tapeworm :o >:( .  I was surprised as the only dog that runs on the lamb field is ours - and she is always wormed.  It is very old unploughed pasture so I expect Monezia is the culprit.  Learning all the time ::)