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Livestock => Sheep => Topic started by: Lilljoho on March 17, 2013, 03:16:00 pm

Title: What are we doing wrong?
Post by: Lilljoho on March 17, 2013, 03:16:00 pm
I'm at my wits end!

We got 6 Cade lambs at 3 days old, they are all 21/2 weeks now.

However 2nd day when had them we had to treat all for pneumonia, then one seems joint ill makes involvement than two days later reluctant to stand again, drinks well. He also has been treated for white muscle disease!

This week we've lost two to watery mouth! We tried treating them but it didn't work :-(

We now have another which I think is joint ill!

I can't cope, it's not like I haven't raised lambs before and I've never had the magnitude of problems.

We're spending a fortune and lambs are bright but problem keep arising.

All fed 250-300mls four times a day. Creep and water available and they have a heat lamp. 
Title: Re: What are we doing wrong?
Post by: Rosemary on March 17, 2013, 03:20:02 pm
These things seem to come in storms - can't offer any advice, but you have my sympathy  :hug:
Title: Re: What are we doing wrong?
Post by: Fleecewife on March 17, 2013, 06:35:55 pm
Did they all come from the same farm?  You know who to avoid next time.   I don't know about white muscle disease, but the other ailments can be ascribed to poor management at birth ie before you got them.
 
I have never kept cade lambs but I hear so many stories of them failing to thrive, and so few where the whole lot do well, that I will not be keeping them in future either.   If you have room for three ewes, you might find that breeding your own lambs will be better.   :sofa:  hiding because I know there are plenty of lambing problems this year too.
Title: Re: What are we doing wrong?
Post by: Marches Farmer on March 17, 2013, 07:51:44 pm
I would guess it may be that the lambs didn't have their navels doused in 10% iodine nor the correct amount of colostrum in the first few hours after birth. If this is the case they'll probably always struggle.
Title: Re: What are we doing wrong?
Post by: Backinwellies on March 17, 2013, 08:09:14 pm
...... and /or lack of ewe vaccination.   Buying in any orphan animal unless you know where it came from is a gamble. 

 :hug: hope things improve.
Title: Re: What are we doing wrong?
Post by: sokel on March 17, 2013, 08:11:32 pm
Only reared lambs once and apart from 1 getting a but snuffly and after a dose of AB cleared up all of they where fit and healthy. we are hopefully getting more next month.
Sounds like there was something wrong with them before you got them
Title: Re: What are we doing wrong?
Post by: Mammyshaz on March 17, 2013, 08:15:39 pm
Hand rearing always poses a risk.  You can only do your best the rest is down to their inner strength. I hope your survivors pull through for all your hard work  :hug:
Title: Re: What are we doing wrong?
Post by: MrsJ on March 17, 2013, 08:39:22 pm
Oh dear.  It's such a shame when you have done so much for them.  :hug:
Title: Re: What are we doing wrong?
Post by: twizzel on March 17, 2013, 10:10:43 pm
Doesn't sound like they've had the best start before you got them. It's pot luck though, orphans are a bit hit and miss- last year I had 6 and had a good year- the only problem we had was 1 got a touch of pneumonia. This year I've got 12- 3 got orf, 2 wouldn't drink, 1 got mild joint ill (caught that one quick so he was fine), 1 has had an abscess... but they are all over whatever they've had wrong now and doing well... but it is risky and you do lose them.
Title: Re: What are we doing wrong?
Post by: Lilljoho on March 18, 2013, 12:30:34 pm
Thanks everyone, it really is disheartening.
Title: Re: What are we doing wrong?
Post by: ZaktheLad on March 18, 2013, 01:35:27 pm
They also have a really nasty habit of growing in to smashing lambs, get to weaning and then.... drop dead for no apparent reason.   
Title: Re: What are we doing wrong?
Post by: Anke on March 18, 2013, 02:12:20 pm
They also have a really nasty habit of growing in to smashing lambs, get to weaning and then.... drop dead for no apparent reason.

Pulpey kidney - if the dam wasn't vaccinated (or the lambs early enough).
Title: Re: What are we doing wrong?
Post by: plumseverywhere on March 18, 2013, 04:22:20 pm
From our experience cades are the hardest to try and rear. If you get a really healthy batch who've had a great start with colostrum etc then you might be in with a chance but on the whole you are trying to raise lambs who are already 'challenged' !   don't blame yourself, its not what YOU are doing wrong probably, its just the way it is.
Even my really healthy 3 cades from last year gave me headaches with bloat and I spent many nights out there with tubes of ginger n oil, rubbing bellies, making them stand and not just die on me!  Good luck. 
Title: Re: What are we doing wrong?
Post by: sabrina on March 18, 2013, 04:37:16 pm
Where you get them is often the key to them living and doing well. I buy from the farm near me as I know James. I also inject them for pulpey kidney just to be on the safe side. Some times things just go wrong with sheep no matter how hard you try. :hug: