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Title: anxious townies run amok in Norfolk
Post by: campanula on February 19, 2013, 12:11:39 pm
Hi
with a small inheritance, we bought a little poplar plantation and a horsebox yes, I fear I detect smirks). Previously, have had a couple of allotments for last decade but greedy developers are circling and it is a site in the very centre of Cambridge so.......days are numbered.
Since life without plants is no life at all, and Mr.Campanula has always been a builder and carpenter, and I have three children, none of whom will EVER be able to afford to live in Cambridge......buying a patch of unloved derelict poplar seemed like a good idea. Not that we expect to ever get planning permission (it is right in the broads, practically on top of the Yare) but it is a heartbreakingly beautiful location, the soil is deep and friable, the trees are basically a bit rubbish so no anxieties about felling (we want to actually regenerate a native stand of trees and woodland garden). So, here we are in February, doing up the horsebox and dreaming of wild camping in the woods (well, I am sowing seeds like a maniac).
So, what to do now. Reading up on farming lingo.....gulp. Obviously, we have to start somewhere, even if we just stay in our council house (with impending bedroom tax) and spend as much time as possible in Norfolk. Our daughter, currently at UEA in Norwich, has a dream of getting us all up there, including my other 2 (in houseboats?)
Our only animal experience has been chickens on the allotment and frankly, I would as soon stick to gardening and forestry (the boys have their pole lathes and chisels....I have my trowel).
Title: Re: anxious townies run amok in Norfolk
Post by: happygolucky on February 19, 2013, 12:28:05 pm
 :excited: :excited: :excited: :excited: wowowowoo....no advice just enjoy..........I doubt many people will be able to buy a  house in the future, I am old enough to remember houses were cheap as chips :innocent: so our mortgage is cheaper than most rents.......my children are also lucky....anyway......I too would want to spend as much time on your plantation as poss.....can you build any form of shelter? shed etc? and I gather its acessable to the road? if yes then I guess  your horse box is going to become your home, how romantic.....good luck and hope some other posts help...we all have to start somewhere!!!
 
P.S  not sure if its even viable but a lot of people are planting Willow for renewable energy, they are cropped every 3 years..if I had some land thats what I would plant...then either sell on the wood or use it!!
Title: Re: anxious townies run amok in Norfolk
Post by: SallyintNorth on February 19, 2013, 12:40:47 pm
One way to find others in your area doing similar is to join ]WWOOF (http://www.wwoof.org.uk)

What an adventure you are embarking upon!  Do keep us posted on how you get on.
Title: Re: anxious townies run amok in Norfolk
Post by: Womble on February 19, 2013, 01:07:01 pm
Sounds great!  No smirking from this end either, just best wishes for your adventure. Do keep us posted!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: anxious townies run amok in Norfolk
Post by: benkt on February 19, 2013, 01:37:55 pm
If you'd like to see a smallholding in action, feel free to come out to us one day at our community farm about ten miles north of Cambridge, http://www.hempsalsfarm.com (http://www.hempsalsfarm.com) We've only been going for a couple of years so still lots to do but you'll find a welcome and a cuppa here!
Title: Re: anxious townies run amok in Norfolk
Post by: darkbrowneggs on February 19, 2013, 01:45:29 pm
Hi there and welcome.  :wave:   It sounds like you are in for a lovely and interesting time.
 
You might want to check out something like this
 
http://permaculturenews.org/2012/01/04/hugelkultur-composting-whole-trees-with-ease/ (http://permaculturenews.org/2012/01/04/hugelkultur-composting-whole-trees-with-ease/)
 
If I was starting again I would quite fancy trying something along those lines.  Good luck with everything anyway  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: anxious townies run amok in Norfolk
Post by: colliewoman on February 19, 2013, 07:14:28 pm
Are you doing up your horsebox to live in??? Excellent!


All the best people live in horseboxes  :innocent: ;D ;D ;D


When you think you have waterproofed the sides, do them again and fix some chains to the ramp to hold it horizontally to give yourself an instant sun lounge for the summer :D :thumbsup:
Title: Re: anxious townies run amok in Norfolk
Post by: campanula on February 19, 2013, 09:30:46 pm
Well hey, Bankt - 'in action' - you don't say! On a more dynamic planet than me, I am afraid....After too many years of being mum, I definitely am not considering livestock (yet) - although we do have one aging and beloved collie (they are top dogs, no question, Colliewoman). An impressive (and terrifying ) work rate going on at Hempsal - must pressgang children's mates (young, easily bribed, obedient(ish), fit).
Yeah, living in the horsebox looms likely (bedroom tax, hateful Tories, Cambridge going down the pan) and am trying to encompass this with equanimity. Not having to be responsible for offspring makes this more do-able and I think we can sidle into it over a couple of years - I used to fantasise about living in my allotment shed - I even read about one chap who had been doing just that (envy, sigh) - would have had a top class lottie, for sure. Daughter is living in Norwich, a cycle ride from our woods, so I can use her washing machine (my main source of anxiety). I think we just wanted one more adventure (the last of our children is about to leave home (finally) - 35 years of putting them first always and now we have some space and land and time for ourselves - we could just loaf around in the woods.
Title: Re: anxious townies run amok in Norfolk
Post by: YorkshireLass on February 19, 2013, 10:04:58 pm
Sounds heavenly  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: anxious townies run amok in Norfolk
Post by: Possum on February 19, 2013, 10:12:10 pm
Don't Worry. Lots of us were townies once. Doesn't mean to say that we don't have the wherewithal to be smallholders.


Would agree with the advice about WOOFF. Also do lots of reading.


Just follow your dreams. :)

Title: Re: anxious townies run amok in Norfolk
Post by: Lesley Silvester on February 19, 2013, 10:20:49 pm
 :wave: HI and welcome from sunny Shropshire.  I'm still a townie by habitation not choice but grow veg and fruit and have my goats all in the back garden.  What you're doing sounds great and I'm looking forward to hearing more.  When you say 'horse box' I'm guessing you don't mean one of the towable ones that hold two horses?

Ben, is your invitation to anyone?  We are spending a week in Cambridge in June (son is getting married there) and would love to meet some other TASers.
Title: Re: anxious townies run amok in Norfolk
Post by: happygolucky on February 20, 2013, 10:03:49 am
I have a yearning for a nice shed  :innocent:  I saw a camper van type horse box with a tiny little pot bellied stove and that was me in love with that idea........I think one of the hardest things when camping is no toilet...a wee is fine under a tree but to get comfy for any "reading the daily news" moments is not nice...we used to go off all the time in our VW and have to drive miles to find an open public toilet or one of those wonderful supermarket ones with hand dryers and hot water!!!
Title: Re: anxious townies run amok in Norfolk
Post by: Pedwardine on February 20, 2013, 01:32:25 pm
It doesn't seem like I'm the only one to be VERY IMPRESSED by your new venture. No smirking here either. Well done for your brave move and masses of good luck to you.
Title: Re: anxious townies run amok in Norfolk
Post by: plumseverywhere on February 20, 2013, 03:07:45 pm
Welcome to TAS  :wave:

Good luck with your venture. I was born in London, husband in Worcester - I guess we are townies even if we grew  up in the countryside! I doubt you'll get any smirks here, everyone is really friendly and helpful and the few that are no can go on your 'ignore list' like I do  ;) 
Title: Re: anxious townies run amok in Norfolk
Post by: benkt on February 20, 2013, 04:00:00 pm
@MGoM, yes offer open to all! PM me with dates and we'll sort something out. Would love to meet you and talk goats too!
Title: Re: anxious townies run amok in Norfolk
Post by: Lesley Silvester on February 20, 2013, 08:53:30 pm
Thanks, Ben.  will PM you.  Always happy to talk goats.