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Livestock => Pigs => Topic started by: Foobar on February 18, 2013, 02:34:52 pm

Title: What to grow...
Post by: Foobar on February 18, 2013, 02:34:52 pm
I'm thinking about growing some forage for my pigs for the summer, just to supplement their diet.  Can anyone suggest any good things to grow? (sowing now)   Quick growing would be good, or something that you can pick and it re-grows.  The only problem is the location I have available to plant in is semi shade.


Any ideas welcomed :).
Title: Re: What to grow...
Post by: Berkshire Boy on February 18, 2013, 03:00:39 pm
I plant my pens with stuble turnip, grows in about 12 weeks depending on the weather and the pigs love it. They usually eat the leaves first and then go round digging up the turnips.
Title: Re: What to grow...
Post by: benkt on February 18, 2013, 07:15:35 pm
I also grow a biggish patch of fodder beat for ours, not to let them forage over, but dug up for autumn-spring feeding. Biggest problem is getting a suitable amount of seed as its sold by the acre. A couple of years ago we split a bag on TAS which was great. Might try to organise that this year if I get organised at all!
Title: Re: What to grow...
Post by: goosepimple on February 18, 2013, 08:57:32 pm
I read a John Seymour book recently, 'Fat of the Land' and he used to grow a big field of artichokes and let his pigs go and demolish the lot - don't think he fed them anything else if I recall correctly.
Title: Re: What to grow...
Post by: hughesy on February 18, 2013, 09:12:39 pm
If you want to harvest and store for later use fodder beet, turnips or swede maybe. For letting the pigs eat it in situ stubble turnip, kale, forage rape or maybe cabbage of some sort.
Title: Re: What to grow...
Post by: graham-j on February 19, 2013, 08:01:28 am
Hi,probably a stupid question but how do you store fodder beet.Sounds like a good thing to grow,I have plenty of animals that would eat it.

Graham.
Title: Re: What to grow...
Post by: MAK on February 19, 2013, 08:08:53 am
Beetroot ! It keeps well in the ground and can grow quite large. I cook mine up (sometimes with spuds) and they love the red water and beet. Looks like a bit of a blood bath after they have eaten it though.
To be honest I overplant whatever and wherever I can so I can give them a variety of food with their nuts. I even had them eating our excess melons last year.
Title: Re: What to grow...
Post by: Susannah on February 19, 2013, 10:39:34 am
We put Tamworths on the artichoke crop after harvesting what we could last year. They didn't like it at all but the Chinese geese ate the lot!
Is fodder beet another name for mangold/mangle worsel?
Title: Re: What to grow...
Post by: hughesy on February 19, 2013, 10:40:34 am
This year I'm going to plant the areas that have been dug over by the pigs after they've moved on to fresh ground. I'm planning on growing stubble turnips, kale and probably some fodder beet and swede. The plan is to plant about half an acre at a time and hopefully be able to put aside a decent store of feed to eke out the bought in pig feed. The plan for storage is to put down some pallets, a layer of clean straw, then stack the swedes or beet and cover with a tarpaulin. Obviously a nice dry barn would be ideal but if I had a nice dry barn so many things would be ideal I couldn't list them all.
Title: Re: What to grow...
Post by: Foobar on February 19, 2013, 11:41:42 am
Fab, thanks for all the replies.


Where do you guys go to buy your seed for these things,  stubble turnip, kale, forage rape, fodder beet etc. ?
Title: Re: What to grow...
Post by: hughesy on February 19, 2013, 11:53:51 am
Try here http://tuckers-seeds.com/index.php?route=product/category&path=1_91 (http://tuckers-seeds.com/index.php?route=product/category&path=1_91) or https://www.cotswoldseeds.com/seedmix/root-crops (https://www.cotswoldseeds.com/seedmix/root-crops). They both do seeds in smallish amounts.
Title: Re: What to grow...
Post by: Foobar on February 19, 2013, 12:17:24 pm
Brill, cheers.
Title: Re: What to grow...
Post by: graham-j on February 19, 2013, 02:46:13 pm
When do you need to sow the seed for mangold/mangle worsel.

Graham.
Title: Re: What to grow...
Post by: plt102 on March 08, 2013, 04:14:00 pm
I planted borage in the pen when the pigs went off. Its a hungry herb that grows like a weed. The next batch of weaners loved it
Title: Re: What to grow...
Post by: Fowlman on March 08, 2013, 04:24:12 pm
Hemp is worth looking into. A good herbacious plant that livestock apparently love.
Title: Re: What to grow...
Post by: sabrina on March 09, 2013, 06:43:38 pm
What a great idea and one that I must try, not getting weaners until next autumn so plenty of time for fodder to grow.
Title: Re: What to grow...
Post by: crazy_bull on March 14, 2013, 12:14:22 pm
Hi,probably a stupid question but how do you store fodder beet.Sounds like a good thing to grow,I have plenty of animals that would eat it.

Graham.

If storing outside create a clamp (a bit like a compost heap) and pile them in, wants to be free draining otherwise the bottom ones will rot. Cover with a liberal covering of straw, don't use a tarpauline as the beet are still 'alive' and respire so need to breath otherwise condensation will cause them to rot. The straw is to keep the worst of the frost of them.

C B
Title: Re: What to grow...
Post by: graham-j on March 15, 2013, 11:52:37 am
Thanks CB


Graham
Title: Re: What to grow...
Post by: MKay on March 16, 2013, 07:38:24 pm
Magnus peas, 25kg for 18quid does a third of an acre