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Community => Introduce yourself => Topic started by: daniellestocks on June 16, 2009, 10:29:55 am

Title: Hello
Post by: daniellestocks on June 16, 2009, 10:29:55 am
 :D Hi everyone x
Im danielle, was pondering the internet for some saddlebacks and fell up on this website, so decided to join up! I live in a small village called Stape Nr Pickering, North Yorks. Ive got 2 gorgeous children, 2 horses, 2 ponies, lots of chickens, guinea pigs, 3 terriers and my new veggie patch (which im extremely proud and protective of! lol), and am desperate to add to with some saddlebacks! :pig: And maybe stretch to sheep next year? ;D
Title: Re: Hello
Post by: carl on June 16, 2009, 12:22:32 pm
It sounds lovely, but I bet it's a lot of work. have a look on farming friends web site. she is from near york and has saddlebacks. there is also the north yorkshore smallholders to consider, they have quite a network for swapping info etc. good luck
carl
Title: Re: Hello
Post by: daniellestocks on June 16, 2009, 12:43:17 pm
Lol, hard work but wouldnt have it any other way!
Ill try them both thanx  :)
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Post by: juliag on June 16, 2009, 03:16:00 pm
hi there from sunny somerset.  :)
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Post by: Hilarysmum on June 16, 2009, 06:45:55 pm
Hi welcome from Brittany
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Post by: Rosemary on June 16, 2009, 09:06:22 pm
And welcome from Alloa.

I went to Pickering on holiday once - I thought it was the nicest place. One of the few places that I've ever thought "I could llive here".
Title: Re: Hello
Post by: sunnyjohn on June 16, 2009, 10:42:18 pm
Hello, Good Evening, and Welcome, as David Frost used to say on 'The Frost Report'. You're probably too young to remember it, but I guess I'm turning into an old Fogey - or my partner would say I've already turned..!  ::)

You sound like a glutton for punishment with all those to look after. For most people, the kids are more than enough, and I don't mean goats! :goat: I've been to Pickering a  number of times over many years, mostly 'in a former life' (i.e. before joining TAS ;D), and like the area immensely. But I know from experience how easy it is for people to say, "It's a lovely area; it must be lovely to live there!" Truth is, hard work's hard work wherever it is, and when you're working all hours it's hard to take in the scenic splendour! But I still think it's lovely....
Welcome, and I hope you find TAS fun as well as useful. And if you ask for help or advice, chances are someone will offer something. Kindred spirits are like that....

All the best

John
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Post by: sheila on June 17, 2009, 09:06:57 am
welcome to the site. my friend has a B.&B. at Pickering but he's too expensive for me!
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Post by: sandy on June 19, 2009, 10:54:10 pm
Hello from me in the smallest county, Clackmannan.....
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Post by: CarraghsBorderCollies on June 19, 2009, 11:03:51 pm
i thought rutland was the smallest county!

hiya from county roscommon ireland :) :) :) :) :) :) :)
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Post by: sandy on June 19, 2009, 11:09:27 pm
Yes, in England, I ment the smallest in Scotland...I had a very good friend from countyrostcommon, he kept saying I should move there but I mov to Scotland instead and hav no regrets.
Title: Re: Hello
Post by: sandy on June 19, 2009, 11:10:29 pm
sorry..no "t"
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Post by: doganjo on June 19, 2009, 11:29:17 pm
You dropping your letters again?  Got 'dropsy' lol
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Post by: CarraghsBorderCollies on June 19, 2009, 11:32:15 pm
galways nicer than roscommon, you should visit ireland sometime! if you ever do, call over and i will give you a guided tour of the area!

gem x
Title: Re: Hello
Post by: MiriMaran on June 20, 2009, 09:05:01 pm
Hello and welcome from a windy Derbyshire - I got hit by a flying gazebo today at the school summer fair!  I managed to catch it before it knocked over all the kids queueing at the sweetie table!!
Title: Re: Hello
Post by: Farmer on June 22, 2009, 12:10:01 pm
Hello and welcome from a windy Derbyshire - I got hit by a flying gazebo today at the school summer fair!  I managed to catch it before it knocked over all the kids queueing at the sweetie table!!

Spoil Sport...the little blighters probably needed a good clout from a gazebo...(only joking honest!!!)

Hello Danielle and welcome to the forum...I hope you find what you're looking for and if you need help and/or advice then call on TAS...they're a great bunch

Farmer
 :farmer:
Title: Re: Hello
Post by: sellickbhoy on June 22, 2009, 05:27:19 pm
i thought rutland was the smallest county!

Now theres a good question!! The isle of Wight is thought to be the smallest county - when the tide is IN and Rutland when the tide is out!

(from the QI forums)

As has already been noted, the problem with anything relying on the word "county" is that there are at least five definitions of that word. One may define a county in England as:

i. A county as normally construed before 1890 (traditional county).
ii. A county within the terms of the Local Government Act 1888 (administrative county). These come in two flavours: County Boroughs (places such as Bristol, Kingston upon Hull, etc) and Shire Counties (not a term with any legal meaning, but normally used to mean counties which are not County Boroughs).
iii. A county within the terms of the Local Government Act 1972 (metropolitan or non-metropolitan county; because that's a rather long term, it's often abbreviated to "1974 county").
iv. That area under the control of a county council, and not being a unitary authority as per the Local Government Act 1992 as amended (county council area).
v. That area under the auspices of a Lord Lieutenant as per the Lieutenancies Act 1997 (ceremonial county).

Now, a small correction to something I claimed (via suze) earlier is needed. The Isle of Wight is in fact a county council area. It functions much like a unitary authority since there are no district councils beneath it, but technically it's a county council. The same structure is due to be introduced for Cornwall, Durham, North Yorkshire, Shropshire and Wiltshire in 2009; the district councils in those areas are to be abolished.

Under definition i., the smallest county is Rutland, followed by Middlesex. Isle of Wight is not a county under this definition; it forms part of the County of Southampton (not officially called Hampshire until 1959).

Under definition iii., the Isle of Wight is the smallest county, followed by Cleveland. Rutland is not a county under this definition.

Under definition iv., the Isle of Wight is the smallest county, followed by Bedfordshire. Rutland is not a county under this definition.

Under definition v., City of London is the smallest county, followed by City and County of Bristol. Rutland and the Isle of Wight are both counties under this definition, but rather larger ones.

That leaves definition ii.

Ah yes, definition ii. There had not been such things as county councils until the Local Government Act 1888 introduced them. The list of county councils created was not identical to the then understanding of what was a county.

At the same time it introduced county boroughs, and there is an argument which says that these should be considered as counties also. If so, then the smallest was either the County Corporate of the City of Canterbury or the County Borough of Devonport. However, they were not for the most part perceived as counties, and so I think that they can be disregarded here. We must also disregard the City of London and the Isles of Scilly; both of these had bodies which functioned as though they were county councils but were explicitly stated not to be.

There were fifty county councils created under the 1888 Act, and these are often referred to as the "administrative counties". Isle of Wight and Rutland were both administrative counties; in the case of the Isle of Wight this was the first time it had been regarded as a county in its own right. But the two were the third and fourth smallest administrative counties.

The two smaller were the County of London (that area which now has London postcodes, excluding the City of London) and the Soke of Peterborough. It's just about possible to exclude both of these as special cases, but only by doing so can we come to the answer as presented.

Furthermore, if we exclude the Soke of Peterborough as being in reality a part of Northamptonshire, then we may have to exclude Rutland as well. It too was a Soke, and was until the Middle Ages considered to be an isolated part of Nottinghamshire.

However ... I'm determined that we are not to have a Corby on our hands. I therefore suggest a definition vi.

"Areas which are popularly perceived as being counties"

That's absolutely fine as far as Rutland is concerned, but it worries me a bit re the Isle of Wight. As indeed Stephen hinted at on the show, is popular perception that the Isle of Wight "belongs to" Hampshire?
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Post by: carl on June 23, 2009, 09:26:22 am
I'll try to remember all that, it may come in handy at a dinner party if I want the guests to leave. ;D
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Post by: sandy on June 23, 2009, 09:42:15 am
 ;)
I am lost now
. I used to work all over Leicestershire, and regularly went off to Rutland, nice middle England type place, now I am in Middle Scotland and thats a nice place too!!!
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Post by: sheila on June 23, 2009, 09:01:33 pm
God Sellick boy,were you a dictionary salesman in an earlier life!?
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Post by: sellickbhoy on June 23, 2009, 10:46:36 pm
God Sellick boy,were you a dictionary salesman in an earlier life!?

nothing quite so exciting as that!! !LOL

no, i do remember the question about the smallest county being on QI, so i googled it and cut and paste the "answer" above

wish i hadn'tbothered now, you'll all think i'm a crushing bore!!
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Post by: doganjo on June 23, 2009, 10:49:00 pm
We would NEVER think/have known/said that, WOULD we Guys?  ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
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Post by: catomell on June 24, 2009, 12:19:16 am
Until I read the bit about you cutting and pasting from QI, I was convinced that you had far too much time on your hands, sellickbhoy - and I was wondering how you were dealing with your smallholding/animals/vegetables, whilst also having the time to type out such an in depth knowledgeable breakdown of the sizes of various counties!!!
My mind is now at rest that you are not spending all your time on the TAS forum, and that your livestock, vegetables etc are still being well cared for.....
And, I don't think that you are a crushing bore - I actually found it quite interesting to read!!! Albeit at a ridiculous hour of the night!
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Post by: sandy on June 24, 2009, 08:26:33 am
No not  bore jut an interesting person interested in life 8)
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Post by: Lizmar on June 24, 2009, 03:18:01 pm
Can I say that I often scroll through the site to see whats happening and learn more about smallholding life.  Work can get very tiring and its nice to have a break.  Read this and WOW I can't believe I want to get back to work.  No actually quite interesting I would think if you live in Rutland! :o