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Title: Butter or marg ?
Post by: tizaala on January 06, 2013, 07:41:42 am
"Pass The Butter ... Please.

This is interesting . .. .

Margarine was originally manufactured to fatten turkeys. When it killed the turkeys, the people who ...had put all the money into the research wanted a payback so they put their heads together to figure out what to do with this product to get their money back.

It was a white substance with no food appeal so they added the yellow colouring and sold it to people to use in place of butter. How do you like it? They have come out with some clever new flavourings....

DO YOU KNOW.. The difference between margarine and butter?

Read on to the end...gets very interesting!

Both have the same amount of calories.
Butter is slightly higher in saturated fats at 8 grams; compared to 5 grams for margarine.

Eating margarine can increase heart disease in women by 53% over eating the same amount of butter, according to a recent Harvard Medical Study.


Eating butter increases the absorption of many other nutrients in other foods.
Butter has many nutritional benefits where margarine has a few and only because they are added!

Butter tastes much better than margarine and it can enhance the flavours of other foods.

Butter has been around for centuries where margarine has been around for less than 100 years .

And now, for Margarine..

Very High in Trans fatty acids.

Triples risk of coronary heart disease ...

Increases total cholesterol and LDL (this is the bad cholesterol) and lowers HDL cholesterol, (the good cholesterol)

Increases the risk of cancers up to five times..

Lowers quality of breast milk

Decreases immune response.

Decreases insulin response.

And here's the most disturbing fact... HERE IS THE PART THAT IS VERY INTERESTING!

Margarine is but ONE MOLECULE away from being PLASTIC... and shares 27 ingredients with PAINT.

These facts alone were enough to have me avoiding margarine for life and anything else that is hydrogenated (this means hydrogen is added, changing the molecular structure of the substance).

Open a tub of margarine and leave it open in your garage or shaded area. Within a couple of days you will notice a couple of things:


* no flies, not even those pesky fruit flies will go near it (that should tell you something)




* it does not rot or smell differently because it has no nutritional value ; nothing will grow on it. Even those teeny weeny microorganisms will not a find a home to grow.



Why? Because it is nearly plastic . Would you melt your Tupperware and spread that on your toast?

after watching that program on diet and exercise last week I started only having olive oil on my bread and toast
Title: Re: Butter or marg ?
Post by: Ina on January 06, 2013, 08:25:03 am
There's margarine and margarine. Vastly different quality - you can't just say "margarine" and cover everything that's on the market...

But I avoid it where possible anyway. Tastes vile.
Title: Re: Butter or marg ?
Post by: Bionic on January 06, 2013, 08:29:05 am
I guess thats a good enough reason to make my own butter
 
Title: Re: Butter or marg ?
Post by: HappyHippy on January 06, 2013, 09:49:40 am
I've always been a butter fan  :yum: when I heard the thing about the one molecule away from plastic I vowed never to to use it :o
Like Bionic, enough of a reason to get a house cow and make my own  ;) :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Butter or marg ?
Post by: Fleecewife on January 06, 2013, 10:06:55 am
There's margarine and margarine. Vastly different quality - you can't just say "margarine" and cover everything that's on the market...


Exactly.   True old fashioned wartime marge was dreadful stuff, but some of the modern spreads, which are still loosely known as margarine, have much healthier ingredients.
Title: Re: Butter or marg ?
Post by: jaykay on January 06, 2013, 10:24:33 am
Ha, I eat butter too, good to have that vindicated  :thumbsup:

Generally, l prefer things that have the shortest list of ingredients, preferably things that sound like food too rather than things you might make plastic out of  ::)
Title: Re: Butter or marg ?
Post by: MikeM on January 06, 2013, 10:39:26 am
I've never needed much presuasion to eat butter over spreads (I read somewhere it's no longer called marge, can't recall why though). I'm no expert milker, but I reckon I'm better at milking a cow than I'd ever be milking a rape seed.
Title: Re: Butter or marg ?
Post by: cleopatra on January 06, 2013, 11:27:53 am
they cracked down on trans-fats about 5 yrs ago. i think asda have banned trans-fats in all their homebrand products.

we did buy tins of margarine from approved foods - the smell was appalling and it got fed to the pigs.
the thing about butter for us is we go through it so much quicker as its hard to spread thinly- and it tastes so nicely.
i think if you can make it from less than 5 ingredients and do so at home, it cant be all bad. i doubt anyone could make their own margarine.
Title: Re: Butter or marg ?
Post by: SallyintNorth on January 06, 2013, 11:39:46 am
Homemade butter, made from the cream of your own cow - and nothing else - is simply the best :)

We have noticed that our general health levels have been very high since we started drinking our Jersey's milk, making butter and some cheese from it.  And the ladies rear very healthy calves on it.  I call it Hillie's Magical Liquid. :)  The lambs did well on it too  :thumbsup: (although I found they didn't adapt back to ewe's milk if they got adopted, so only use 100%  Jersey milk on lambs who are past the adoptable stage, they get half-and-half until then.)

It is even the case that some Jerseys, and it seems Hillie is one of them, produce milk which is ok for people who are allergic to most cow's milk.  (Must get one of my cows-milk-allergic friends to test Plenty's milk.  ;))

Title: Re: Butter or marg ?
Post by: Lesley Silvester on January 06, 2013, 06:12:50 pm
My name is Lesley and I'm a butterholic.

I admit it.  I don't buy it because I use it by the slice on my bread.
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Post by: RUSTYME on January 06, 2013, 06:38:19 pm
I try not to eat marge if poss , for the reasons in op . I live in a caravan though and in winter butter is akin to bricks . So i use butter for toast and 'buttery spread' for sarnies etc , if the butter is to hard to spread .
Funny thing is , in regard to marge almost being plastic or paint , milk can be used to make a very good paint and also a usable alternative to plastic , because of the casein content !
I use about 1/2lb of butter per week and 2 250g tubs of 'buttery spread' over the winter .

Title: Re: Butter or marg ?
Post by: colliewoman on January 06, 2013, 06:48:06 pm
Butter every time :yum: :yum:


If the butter won't spread (or I have eaten it all) I use good olive oil on my 'bread'stuff.


I don't understand why if butter is so terrible lots of  these spreads are trying to emulate them?


feck me it's marge I can't believe it's not butter????? If ya wanted butter why didn't you buy some?????


Real food, in moderation nothing could be easier!

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Post by: cleopatra on January 06, 2013, 08:20:52 pm
I live in a caravan though and in winter butter is akin to bricks .

ha,  ;D ;D  same here, our house is always freezing and we have to slice the butter which is probably why we go through it so quickly.
Title: Re: Butter or marg ?
Post by: Lesley Silvester on January 06, 2013, 10:39:12 pm
Now why didn't I think of that excuse?  I'm also not very good at slicing so half inch of butter per slice of bread.   :yum: :yum: :yum:
Title: Re: Butter or marg ?
Post by: tazbabe on January 07, 2013, 06:03:12 am
its got to be butter! we don;t eat much bread, but i use it in cooking all the time, the ither stuff is no good, and the list of rubbish that is in it is frightening!
Title: Re: Butter or marg ?
Post by: happygolucky on January 07, 2013, 09:29:10 am
I have read this before and changed to butter, however, it's so much nicer I am more tempted.  When I was on a diet (that I need to be on now), We bought some of that expensive ,low cholesterol spread, I did not like that at all so did not eat much bread, now we have butter and its so nice, butter on hot toast is so much better in my opinion, than, runny Margery.......
Title: Re: Butter or marg ?
Post by: happygolucky on January 07, 2013, 09:30:31 am
 :roflanim: :roflanim: :roflanim:  sorry Margery.....that was my I Pad not me, I meant MARGARINE......
Title: Re: Butter or marg ?
Post by: Lesley Silvester on January 07, 2013, 03:09:38 pm
We believe you, Sandy.  Not sure if Margery will.   :roflanim:

Getting cravings for hot toast with lots of lovely butter melting down over my fingers.
Title: Re: Butter or marg ?
Post by: Mel Rice on January 07, 2013, 05:15:45 pm
I love butter too. One of my favorite memories is of visiting my Grandads fruit and veg shop and having chip butties.
The bread HAD to be cut in doorsteps as it was still warm from the bakers next door. You put a slice of butter in the center of it...that was a slice as it was very cold, straight from the butchers shop/dairy nextdoor on the other side. Then you put five or six (if you could manage it) fat hot greasy chips, from across the road, on top of the slice of butter. You rolled the crusts round to hold everthing in and ate it from below starting at the end (so the drpping butter was not wasted!) YUM
They have never tasted as great when Ive tried to repeat the recipie elsewhere must the added ingredient of memory.
Title: Re: Butter or marg ?
Post by: SteveHants on January 07, 2013, 06:37:03 pm
I thought everyone knew that marge was the devils business?


Butter every time.
Title: Re: .
Post by: Ina on January 07, 2013, 08:37:07 pm
I live in a caravan though and in winter butter is akin to bricks .

ha,  ;D ;D  same here, our house is always freezing and we have to slice the butter which is probably why we go through it so quickly.

Even in my kitchen the butter is like a brick.... And the olive oil is so solid I can't get it out of the bottle!  :D
Title: Re: Butter or marg ?
Post by: Rosemary on January 07, 2013, 08:57:29 pm
I love butter - don't buy anything else and if I get my @rse in gear, we'll be making our own next summer. Cannae wait  :yum:
Title: Re: Butter or marg ?
Post by: Lesley Silvester on January 07, 2013, 09:26:24 pm
I would make my own if I could but separators are so expensive and probably not worth it for the amount of milk I get.
Title: Re: Butter or marg ?
Post by: VSS on January 07, 2013, 09:33:24 pm
Butter

Title: Re: Butter or marg ?
Post by: Anke on January 07, 2013, 10:12:19 pm
I would make my own if I could but separators are so expensive and probably not worth it for the amount of milk I get.

Our separator came form the Ukraine, cost about 100quid incl delivery, works well (doing about 10ltrs max at any one time) and I am sure we are now quids in - although we mainly use the cream for cooking, icecream making and ....ahemmm in my coffee  :yum:
Title: Re: Butter or marg ?
Post by: ballingall on January 07, 2013, 10:27:48 pm
I would make my own if I could but separators are so expensive and probably not worth it for the amount of milk I get.


You don't have to get a separator, we don't have one and we make butter. Leave your milk in the fridge for 24 hours, in a wide dish. Use a shallow spoon, and draw it across the top of the milk to lift off from the milk/buttermilk. You won't get it all the same way you would with a separator, but gather it up for few days, and you will get enough to make a little butter.


Beth
Title: Re: Butter or marg ?
Post by: Lesley Silvester on January 07, 2013, 11:12:24 pm
I have tried doing that but even after a few days there is very little so I don't think her butter fat content is very high.  That's even when I don't give in to the temptation to eat the cream. :innocent:
Title: Re: Butter or marg ?
Post by: Ina on January 08, 2013, 07:20:03 am
Were you trying that with goatsmilk? That  doesn't work.
Title: Re: Butter or marg ?
Post by: happygolucky on January 08, 2013, 09:36:30 am
chip Butty.      :thumbsup:        B ip ad keeps changing it to nutty
Title: Re: Butter or marg ?
Post by: Lesley Silvester on January 08, 2013, 10:40:02 pm
Were you trying that with goatsmilk? That  doesn't work.

So I found out.   ;D
Title: Re: Butter or marg ?
Post by: LittleMrsC on January 21, 2013, 07:30:27 pm
 :wave:
I like butter but not very often..........eat what you like but do your health a favour and make sure you know what you are eating. In a nutshell........keep to ingredients that you know! For every process there is a loss in nutrients, vitamins & minerals........and toge all important taste. Don't get me started on 'lite' or ' low cal' spreads.........if these products worked, well we would all be super slim!!! :roflanim:
Title: Re: Butter or marg ?
Post by: renee on January 22, 2013, 10:26:56 am
In Scandinavia there is even more diffrence in price between margaring and butter but that has never got me to eat margarine. If there is no butter I eat my bread dry. As to cold butter, I have a café and I need my butter spreadble. Most people use the modified butter which I also think is vile. I have solved the problem by buying one of the oldfashioned butter "curlers".The butter looks attractive,easy to spread and the customers canīt use too much  :innocent:
As to goats milk. it is "homogenised" in the udder. Thatīs why they hop up and down so much :innocent:
A seperator is therefore a necessity. Some people who are allergic to cows milk can drink goats milk because it may not be a milk allergy but a milk structure allergy