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Title: Too many lost animals
Post by: doganjo on January 01, 2013, 10:34:26 pm
Trying to get notice taken of the situation.  Please feel free to sign this petition


Introduce legislation to reduce the incidence of dog theft

Responsible department: Home Office

Dog theft is common. All kinds of dogs are stolen from owners and when the owners go to the police they are told ‘There is nothing we can do, it’s just a dog’ We are all aware that the police are under pressure with budget cuts, but we need to make sure that they are willing and able to prioritize a stolen dog over a stolen bike or phone.
At present stealing a dog is the perfect crime, the police won’t pursue them and if they get caught, the penalty is minimal, yet there is a massive reward either in selling the dog, claiming reward money or using the dog as bait for dog fighting .
We, as tax payers, have the right to protection from thieves as do our dogs. We would respectfully request that the police be given a remit to give higher priority to stolen dogs and that when dog thieves are caught, they face higher penalties in court, fines set to reflect the theft and even lengthy jail sentences when it is appropriate


http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/38335 (http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/38335)
Title: Re: Too many lost animals
Post by: Daisys Mum on January 02, 2013, 08:18:44 am
Done!
Title: Re: Too many lost animals
Post by: Rosemary on January 02, 2013, 09:11:28 am
Done
Title: Re: Too many lost animals
Post by: tizaala on January 02, 2013, 09:35:08 am
Done it
 
Title: Re: Too many lost animals
Post by: doganjo on January 02, 2013, 10:15:01 am
Thanks, we were aiming to reach 100 by midnight last night, which it did and still climbing, pass the link around please if you feel you can.
There have been a couple of leads in Yorkshire on Dawn's GSP, she is checking them out now. Will let you all know when Angel gets home.
Annie
Title: Re: Too many lost animals
Post by: deepinthewoods on January 02, 2013, 10:33:40 am
signed.
Title: Re: Too many lost animals
Post by: Ina on January 02, 2013, 10:38:06 am
Done.

It's not just dogs, though. I know it's difficult to prove anything about "stolen" cats (they tend to decide themselves who they want to live with...). How do the police act when other companion animals get stolen, i.e horses, donkeys etc?
Title: Re: Too many lost animals
Post by: doganjo on January 02, 2013, 11:40:43 am
I cannot believe what I just read!!
A dog corresponding to Angel's description was handed in to a Police station on N Y Eve.  In the morning the same person went back and took her away saying he'd made a mistake and that it was a neighbour's dog.

All the Police can say is that it was the same person - they took no details at either time!  So if it was Angel we are hoping they have realised which dog she is and taken her to some other establishment to try to claim the £3000 reward that we have all contributed to.

No paperwork done, no names, no pack drill, no evidence - unbelievable!  Useless twats!
Title: Re: Too many lost animals
Post by: Rosemary on January 02, 2013, 11:46:28 am
I'm sure they have CCTV images.

To be fair, on New Year's Eve, they may have had more important things on their minds than dogs.
Title: Re: Too many lost animals
Post by: doganjo on January 02, 2013, 11:54:59 am
CCTV perhaps, we are following that up.  More important than dogs?  What is? Drunks? Stabbings?  Not in my opinion. :rant:
Title: Re: Too many lost animals
Post by: Marsbar on January 02, 2013, 02:07:36 pm
Me & the wife just done it.


Richard
Title: Re: Too many lost animals
Post by: Sylvia on January 02, 2013, 02:28:28 pm
Done! Some people's dogs are as dear as a child.
Title: Re: Too many lost animals
Post by: Lesley Silvester on January 02, 2013, 05:16:19 pm
Signed
Title: Re: Too many lost animals
Post by: Old Shep on January 02, 2013, 07:30:23 pm
done it.  I couldn't believe what the police did either!! 


One idea thats floating around my head is that there are many reports of near misses - ie "man in white van tries to grab dog and is thwarted by dog owner in Townsville" etc..  Those incidents will be definitely ignored by the police.  I wonder if a site like doglost would be willing to set up a page to log these incidents? Especially if reg nos are noted.  Some sort of pattern may then emerge?  What do you think?
Title: Re: Too many lost animals
Post by: luckylady on January 02, 2013, 08:05:29 pm
Done.  :)
Title: Re: Too many lost animals
Post by: sabrina on January 02, 2013, 08:29:58 pm
Lots of cats in my area gone missing over the last 2wks
Title: Re: Too many lost animals
Post by: Victorian Farmer on January 02, 2013, 08:49:54 pm
Not good i hope some think is done .
Title: Re: Too many lost animals
Post by: WaltDisneyWorld on January 02, 2013, 09:45:18 pm
Signed
Title: Re: Too many lost animals
Post by: Berkshire Boy on January 02, 2013, 10:52:48 pm
I love my dogs but come on the police have far more important things to do and if my dogs went missing I would not expect them to waste their time looking for them
Title: Re: Too many lost animals
Post by: doganjo on January 02, 2013, 10:54:10 pm
done it.  I couldn't believe what the police did either!! 


One idea thats floating around my head is that there are many reports of near misses - ie "man in white van tries to grab dog and is thwarted by dog owner in Townsville" etc..  Those incidents will be definitely ignored by the police.  I wonder if a site like doglost would be willing to set up a page to log these incidents? Especially if reg nos are noted.  Some sort of pattern may then emerge?  What do you think?
Certainly worth asking them - they are usually quite amenable to suggestions to improve their website.
Title: Re: Too many lost animals
Post by: Orinoco on January 02, 2013, 10:57:25 pm
Done

We believe we thwarted the theft of  Airedale, a van was parked on the hard shoulder of the A23 our regular walk route. Our Airedale  acted totally out of character and pushed through a fence and  disappeared,  we spotted her on the hard shoulder running away from this parked van. She would have had to push through a slope of bramble bushes to get there (as we did painfully quickly to get to her). We did report this as even though we made an assumption as to the situation, we thought if there were enough reports, warnings may be given/ put up.

Our dogs and now cats are very much part of our family.

K
Title: Re: Too many lost animals
Post by: doganjo on January 02, 2013, 10:59:30 pm
I love my dogs but come on the police have far more important things to do and if my dogs went missing I would not expect them to waste their time looking for them
I do hope you never lose them then. 
Mine have gone missing due to OTHER people leaving gates open.  I wouldn't expect the police to search for my dogs either, but our local police sent out a squad car on Hogmanay last year to keep an eye out for them - they would have been checking other things out at the same time no doubt..  Fortunately the dogs came back - with bunnies in  their mouths, but with a road and railway next to me I was very upset and I was grateful for their offer of help.
Title: Re: Too many lost animals
Post by: Rhodie on January 04, 2013, 10:38:14 pm
Signed, if dogs are brought into the police, are they checked for microchips?  Our older dogs are double chipped (USA/EU)  both pedigrees and rescue dogs, the new pup is just EU chipped,their real value is as family members, but the pedigrees are between £800-£1000 which is a fair financial value worth being investigated.
Title: Re: Too many lost animals
Post by: doganjo on January 05, 2013, 03:47:13 pm
Signed, if dogs are brought into the police, are they checked for microchips?  Our older dogs are double chipped (USA/EU)  both pedigrees and rescue dogs, the new pup is just EU chipped,their real value is as family members, but the pedigrees are between £800-£1000 which is a fair financial value worth being investigated.

Not always.  Not their responsibility we were told - all found dogs now go to dog warden then kennels. In England anyway.

We checked out a report on the 1st about a GSP that had been handed in to the Police at Rotherham.  No details taken and the guy came back half an hour later, said the dog was his neighbours and got it back.

Dawn had a helluva job finding him but as it happens it wasn't Angel.  She's still missing