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Livestock => Goats => Topic started by: sokel on November 16, 2012, 10:18:49 pm
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We have a togg that is becoming a bit of a problem
When in seperate pens she is an outright bully and will take chunks out of any goat she can reach when in a herd situation she winds everyone up untill they gang up on her
She has bitten me on the shoulder twice when I have been in the milking pen milking another goat
Yesterday was so bad we had to pull her out before someone got hurt ! She is now in the big stable with the american miniature horse who thinks she is a goat anyway and always lived with a goat before we got her
Now the problem is do we leave them together or pen the goat up on her own
She can't go in with the dairy herd and def can't risk her with the boers
Any suggestions?
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Curry :goat:
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Curry??
Normally I am in favour of trying everything with the girlies, but if she's a menace I would eat her (if I liked goat meat).
Would she be mean to the pony? If not she might prefer that to my 1st option but there is only so much a wee horsey can put up with :goat: :horse:
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I think I'd be eating her too - she sounds likes she's going to be a menace with whoever she's with!
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Has her aggressive behaviour been triggered by pain ? or has she undergone a false pregnancy and thinks she is defending a youngster? either way she is not good news , definately on for the freezer.
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Has she always had an aggressive nature? Had a mare years ago who became a menace and post mortem showed a brain tumour which explained her erratic descent into anarchy.
With this goat I'd be thinking along the curry route like others because it is not worth risking the health and mental welfare of the others, pony included, not to mention injuries to yourself. A strong-minded flock queen acting as a leader who keeps order is one thing but a bully actually destroying everyone else's peace of mind is not something I'd want to live with.
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Yes she has always been a bully, she is 4 years old and came here 18 months ago with her sister who is a happy part of the herd
She does also bully her sister but not as bad as the others , She has on more than one occassion drawn blood when they have all been out in the field aswell.
Things are quiet in the stable with her and the horse, infact they where both lying down next to each other quite happy so will keep a close eye on things over the next few days and if there is a problem we are going to have to have a rethink :-\
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Has she suddenly got worse?
Has she kidded? how was she with her kids?
I think at 4 years they seem to be maturing, one of mine has just started bumping her older half sister about a bit, it used to be the other way round. She also used to try and bite me while I was milking.
Curious - What would happen with the Boers?
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Does telling her off or tapping her sharply with something like a stick or your hand if she tries to bite or have a go work or you could try a water pistol maybe x
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Frankly...... I wouldn't be waiting for the accident to happen.....next time it might not be blood drawn on another goat but yourself seen as the target.
Clearly this goat , for whatever reason, has a problem with animals/persons who are perceived as a threat................. this can only go down hill.
Do the sensible & safe thing.........
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Eat her.
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She is still in with the little horse, they have built quite a bond up and she seems to be a much happier goat
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So long as she doesn't take chunks out of you.
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Since she was removed from the other goats she has shown no agression to any of us and actualy comes up to us to see if we have any treats
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That goat has an identity crisis. ;D ;D
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Sokel - that's really good - I have several nutty animals like that, cat the loves the GS but not particularly reciprocated - glad there's a truce for the time being.
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Still harmony here, the horse was out on the drive today while i mucked out and I let the goat out aswell, I thought she would have headed straight for the goat shed but she didnt, she went off down the drive and stayed with the horse untill I brought them both in :thumbsup:
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Maybe she just doesn't like other :goat: ? Hopefully she will settle down, it would be a shame to have to eat her.... :(
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It would be a shame to have her destroyed (whether you eat her or not).
Which goat is your herd boss sokel?
Beth
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Cherry is the herd leader and I think the problem started to get worse when bell started to bully cherrys 2 daughters
Cherry jumped in to protect them even though they where 15 months old and apple who is cherrys sister and second in command jumped in to help out
It then got worse as bell challenged cherry and all h*ll broke out
Things are so peacefull at the moment I can't see any reason why we should change things