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Title: This way Mr Fawkes or (for Fawkes sake)
Post by: tizaala on October 21, 2012, 11:51:26 am
Oh Yes
Title: Re: This way Mr Fawkes
Post by: Carl f k on October 21, 2012, 11:52:58 am
Would do us all a big favour that one :innocent:
Title: Re: This way Mr Fawkes or (for Fawkes sake)
Post by: bangbang on October 21, 2012, 12:15:02 pm
 :thumbsup: :roflanim:
Title: Re: This way Mr Fawkes or (for Fawkes sake)
Post by: deepinthewoods on October 21, 2012, 12:34:57 pm
remember remember the 5th of november, gunpowder treason and plot.
 
i think something might be happening........
Title: Re: This way Mr Fawkes or (for Fawkes sake)
Post by: Mrs Snoodles on October 21, 2012, 12:39:02 pm
...if only....
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Post by: Rosemary on October 21, 2012, 01:02:11 pm
 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: This way Mr Fawkes or (for Fawkes sake)
Post by: Mammyshaz on October 21, 2012, 02:51:00 pm
 :roflanim:
Title: Re: This way Mr Fawkes or (for Fawkes sake)
Post by: jaykay on October 21, 2012, 04:10:21 pm
They must have had welfare cuts, an idiot education secretary and arrogant prats abusing policemen, amongst other things, in those days too  ::)

Is there a gunpowder fund, how do you contribute  ;)
Title: Re: This way Mr Fawkes or (for Fawkes sake)
Post by: deepinthewoods on October 21, 2012, 04:17:23 pm
dont fund, just go.
 
http://ukanonymousevents.weebly.com/countdown.html (http://ukanonymousevents.weebly.com/countdown.html)
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Post by: RUSTYME on October 21, 2012, 04:32:00 pm
Watch the film V for Vendetta , very apt atm .
Title: Re: This way Mr Fawkes or (for Fawkes sake)
Post by: jaykay on October 21, 2012, 04:36:56 pm
Looks good  :thumbsup: Too far and too expensive to get there, sadly.
Title: Re: This way Mr Fawkes or (for Fawkes sake)
Post by: deepinthewoods on October 21, 2012, 04:44:20 pm
unfortunately jakykay, like me you are not anonymous. :thinking: :relief:
Title: Re: This way Mr Fawkes or (for Fawkes sake)
Post by: jaykay on October 21, 2012, 04:56:37 pm
True  8)
Title: Re: This way Mr Fawkes or (for Fawkes sake)
Post by: deepinthewoods on October 21, 2012, 05:03:12 pm
[quote author=jaykay link=topic=28583.msg283764#msg283764 date=1350832221

Is there a gunpowder fund, how do you contribute  ;)

 
i believe, technically, that this is classed as procuring funds for a tewwowrist activity., babaahmed was extradited for similar. you may want to modify?  :D
Title: Re: This way Mr Fawkes or (for Fawkes sake)
Post by: jaykay on October 21, 2012, 05:23:37 pm
 :D

I liked the legal disclaimer on the Anonymous event page, that they're were not, in fact, going to blow up Parliament  :D

Shall I do one too:
"Despite the idiocy/arrogance/out-of-touchness of the current government, I do not intend them or anyone else any physical harm"  :D

I will not, however, guarantee not to do a  :excited: happy-dance when they are voted out

Title: Re: This way Mr Fawkes or (for Fawkes sake)
Post by: deepinthewoods on October 21, 2012, 05:57:02 pm
thats a double negative, isnt it? miss?  :D
 
ill dance again, one day.
Title: Re: This way Mr Fawkes or (for Fawkes sake)
Post by: Berkshire Boy on October 22, 2012, 10:02:19 am
Jaykay, who on earth would you put in their place not the Miliband and Balls up duo surely. :roflanim:
Title: Re: This way Mr Fawkes or (for Fawkes sake)
Post by: SallyintNorth on October 22, 2012, 12:17:10 pm
Jaykay, who on earth would you put in their place not the Miliband and Balls up duo surely. :roflanim:
That's the trouble.  I vote for jaykay's Goldie.  She'll make just as much sense, do no harm, and make everyone smile  :)
Title: Re: This way Mr Fawkes or (for Fawkes sake)
Post by: deepinthewoods on October 22, 2012, 05:54:09 pm
i might be completely off the track here but isnt goldie a bloke (drum n bass dj from the early 90's) god please dont let him run the country.
Title: Re: This way Mr Fawkes or (for Fawkes sake)
Post by: jaykay on October 22, 2012, 05:59:46 pm
Not the Goldie with the diamond teeth, my old golden retriever  :roflanim:

Yeh BB, it is a bit of an issue!
Title: Re: This way Mr Fawkes or (for Fawkes sake)
Post by: deepinthewoods on October 22, 2012, 06:22:07 pm
id have this country sorted in a week. renationalise all the essentials, water, gas, eleccy and public transport, so all the shareholders dont take their cut. then make it illegal to own more than one home. then the million people homeless in this country and the god knbows how many families in b+b accomodation might have a christmas with a roof of their own over their head.
Title: Re: This way Mr Fawkes or (for Fawkes sake)
Post by: jaykay on October 22, 2012, 06:22:55 pm
Vote DiTW  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: This way Mr Fawkes or (for Fawkes sake)
Post by: Lesley Silvester on October 22, 2012, 06:23:50 pm
I'll vote for you DITW.   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: This way Mr Fawkes or (for Fawkes sake)
Post by: bangbang on October 22, 2012, 06:47:20 pm
Na! vote for tizaala!...he's got the traffic signs!...he could bring
the country to a standstill.
Title: Re: This way Mr Fawkes or (for Fawkes sake)
Post by: deepinthewoods on October 22, 2012, 07:24:07 pm
maybe form a coalition? :roflanim:
Title: Re: This way Mr Fawkes or (for Fawkes sake)
Post by: Small Farmer on October 22, 2012, 07:28:30 pm
It's a compelling idea but it really won't work.  I knew the Sid of the British Gas "tell Sid" adverts because I worked at the place where all the crap privatisation ideas originated.  The problem being faced then by all the utilities was 40 years of chronic under-investment by governments of all colours combined with blinkered and utterly shite management.   Selling them off was Mrs Thatcher's own blinkered way of passing the capital expenditure parcel.


Governments are rubbish at running things that require long term planning because politics is all short term.


Energy was cheap because energy WAS cheap.  Dad bought 4 gallons and got change from a pound.  But the appalling mis-management of British Leyland by Lord Stokes crashed the motor industry, and as for British Rail's multiple-unit slam door rolling stock words fail me.


So we've been stuck with a vast backlog of maintenance and replacement at colossal expense.  But HMG has been total inept as a regulator which says it would be crap as an owner again.


To buy-back the utilities is now unaffordable.  To nationalise without compensation would be to follow the example of Hugo Chavez and other rather less wholesome leaders, would crash the capital markets totally and probably finish the Euro.  Begins to sound appealing. :excited:


Title: Re: This way Mr Fawkes or (for Fawkes sake)
Post by: Ina on October 22, 2012, 07:37:07 pm

Governments are rubbish at running things that require long term planning because politics is all short term.


I.e. governments are crap at running countries.

Oh what shall we do???? :-\
Title: Re: This way Mr Fawkes or (for Fawkes sake)
Post by: deepinthewoods on October 22, 2012, 07:43:04 pm
we tell them to go and .... themselves and do something like iceland.
http://www.abc4.com/content/news/top_stories/story/Hiker-spots-man-in-goat-suit-frolicking-with-a/8tKqdZF7s0eioSivDg8O-w.cspx (http://www.abc4.com/content/news/top_stories/story/Hiker-spots-man-in-goat-suit-frolicking-with-a/8tKqdZF7s0eioSivDg8O-w.cspx)
 
Title: Re: This way Mr Fawkes or (for Fawkes sake)
Post by: Small Farmer on October 22, 2012, 07:43:42 pm
I can only agree.  This lot are woefully ignorant of the real world.  Those weird people who don't have trust funds and useful connections.  But they also seem to be crap as politicians.   
Title: Re: This way Mr Fawkes or (for Fawkes sake)
Post by: bloomer on October 22, 2012, 07:46:11 pm
well if DITW gets to be party leader


can i be foreign minister as i have a few suggestions on international diplomacy i'd like to implement!!!
Title: Re: This way Mr Fawkes or (for Fawkes sake)
Post by: Small Farmer on October 22, 2012, 07:46:52 pm
Iceland did what Ireland should have done.  " Can't pay, won't pay"
Title: Re: This way Mr Fawkes or (for Fawkes sake)
Post by: deepinthewoods on October 22, 2012, 07:47:19 pm
a really simple, quick, point.
the average household fuel bill is £1000 a year.  someone whos unemployed recieves £65/ week. theres £20 gone. just on fuel.
housing benefit only pay 85% of your rent. so say you have to make up £15/ week. now they are down to £30/ week to live on.
 
that is REALITY for lots and lots of people in this country. it knocks me sick
Title: Re: This way Mr Fawkes or (for Fawkes sake)
Post by: deepinthewoods on October 22, 2012, 07:49:15 pm
well if DITW gets to be party leader


can i be foreign minister as i have a few suggestions on international diplomacy i'd like to implement!!!

do go on, :D
Title: Re: This way Mr Fawkes or (for Fawkes sake)
Post by: bloomer on October 22, 2012, 07:51:56 pm
well europe can do one for starters


some of my other foreign policy suggestions would result in me having to report myself to be moderated!!!
Title: Re: This way Mr Fawkes or (for Fawkes sake)
Post by: Ina on October 22, 2012, 07:56:45 pm
a really simple, quick, point.
the average household fuel bill is £1000 a year.  someone whos unemployed recieves £65/ week. theres £20 gone. just on fuel.

Actually, I think it's more or less all going up by 9% this year. And if you are unemployed, you spend a lot more time at home, and should really need more money for heating... I notice it myself at the moment. I've given up - temperatures below 12 degree call for the heating to come on. And of course, because the great unwashed (i.e. without full employment) can only afford cheap housing, which always comes with expensive heating - figures look even less great. However, I'm quite used to having no more than an average of 15 degree when I'm in the house... And I spend a lot of time in the library in winter. But if you have a family? Tough luck!
Title: Re: This way Mr Fawkes or (for Fawkes sake)
Post by: Lesley Silvester on October 22, 2012, 08:29:46 pm
My son recently  lost his job.  Because he is under 35 he is only entitled to £44 housing benefit a week.  His rent for a second floor, one bedroomed flat was £350.  To stay there, he would have had to put about half his JSA towards it.  Then there's bills.  He would have had little if anything left for food so he's back living with us.  Not for long.  He's going to Australia on a year's working holiday visa.

Apparently the reasoning behind the £44 a week is because people under 35 can house share.  Not for £44 a week they can't.  And why should he have to give up a flat to go and live with other people at the age of 29?  Not that he could find a house share.  Most of them are tenanted by students and teenagers.  Not what he wants and at least £60 a week plus bills.   :rant:
Title: Re: This way Mr Fawkes or (for Fawkes sake)
Post by: Carl f k on October 22, 2012, 10:00:54 pm
After watching wartime farm and the country being self sufficient.. What the hell happened? We don't really need to import all the kak that we do. I know we sold the gas and electric to other country's but why? To make maggy thatcher rich? I was only a kid when all this happened so don't really know why this county can't  look after itself??
Title: Re: This way Mr Fawkes or (for Fawkes sake)
Post by: Small Farmer on October 22, 2012, 10:11:50 pm
Maggie can't have made much out of being PM:  Denis was already pretty rich.  Tony Blair, on the other hand, has been raking it in in sackloads and Cherie won't be exactly poor.
Title: Re: This way Mr Fawkes or (for Fawkes sake)
Post by: deepinthewoods on October 22, 2012, 11:52:38 pm
and tony blair is also, youll never guess, a bilderberger. there is a pattern developing  ;D
Title: Re: This way Mr Fawkes or (for Fawkes sake)
Post by: deepinthewoods on October 26, 2012, 09:18:58 pm
i have heard operation vendetta is indeed initiated.  :thinking: