The Accidental Smallholder Forum
Livestock => Poultry & Waterfowl => Topic started by: aaronsundin on September 19, 2012, 07:54:51 am
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Morning all ,
after excessive hatching throughout this year and last we are now up to 25 chooks in the flock -( partner has said " no more " ) . I need to get the birds wormed and am needing advise which wormer to use . Preferable easy to use and obtain . My vet has asked me to calculate how much food I use over a 7 day period and offered to calculate and provide me with the right amount . I think this will be a more expensive option and would rather buy it locally - we have a good farm supply shop near by , or order it online . Any advise on a brand would be much appreciated.
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Hi,there is only one wormer licensed for chickens Flubenvet.You will need about 30kg of feed,by far the cheapest way to buy this is pre mixed feed from Marriages,it works out about £11 a bag you will need 2.
A 60g pot enough to treat on 20kg bag of feed is £13.20,so the pre mixed is far cheaper,a larger 240g pot is £44 this will treat 8 25kg sacks of feed so still works out at £5.50 + cost of bag of feed.
Some people use other unlicensed products.
Graham.
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Agree with above - my vet gave me a pot after diagnosis by PM (gapeworm) - hopeless!!! Mixing 6g in a kilo of food - I had NO confidence that this was evenly distributed, so bought some Marriages layers with Flubinvet in it. OUr practice doesnt recommend routine worming without symptoms though - interesting different views between practices.
Your post made me laugh - we are in same boat - lots of chickens (I am a bit addicted to hatching!!!) and OH has said no more! The plan was that we would be eating at least half - but first batch only 1 cockrel (which we are keeping) and last batch (11 birds) - still cant tell!
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:thumbsup: Good answer from graham-j.
You can order the pre-treated Marriages on-line if you can't find it locally ..... pushes up the price though so check out local agri stores first.
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Hi,FiB it sounds like you have OCD(Obsessive Chicken Disorder).I am also inflicted with this myself so I know how bad Obsessive Chicken Disorder can be. ;D
Graham.
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Totally agree also with the Marriages suggestion. :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
We have just used a 10kg bag for 10 chooks (although we did go a bit over to finish it all) and the laying rate has doubled!!
For the first time since we've had them I feel that they've had a proper dose of wormer (I was just adding a spoonful of Fluben powder to some mash before) and I'm sure they look perkier.
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I'm just about to do mine with the Marriages pellets.
If you have sufficient usage of feed, Marriages will deliver a one tonne mixed pallet free of charge. You need to use enough to work in with the use-by dates but I've just ordered a pallet with sheep cubes for tupping plus some poultry feed (plus the 10 bags of feed Marriages is donating as prizes for the Festival). Works fine for us - saves me time and fuel plus what I would randomly spend in the feed merchants on impulse.
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Unfortunately the marriages site seems to be down at the moment.
Do they do pig feed? If they do then I will definitely consider the one tonne pallet in future as we always seem to be up at the agri store getting pig feed and then of course we always end up getting something else... and some thing else etc etc...... and I can't go in there without getting a pig ear for the dog.....
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Hi,pretty certain they do I have,horse and sheep feed off them as well as chicken feed on a mixed tonne pallet as well.The web site is still down just checked.
Graham
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I also use the Marriage feed, makes worming easy.
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Do they do pig feed? If they do then I will definitely consider the one tonne pallet in future as we always seem to be up at the agri store getting pig feed and then of course we always end up getting something else... and some thing else etc etc...... and I can't go in there without getting a pig ear for the dog.....
They do allsorts - mixed corn, sheep nuts, pig food, layer pellets, grit. It took me a wee bit of trial and error but I wouldn't buy feed any other way now.
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Hi All,
I've been using Verm-X as I like the idea that its herbal. Would everyone recommend the Marriages rather than Verm-X?
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Personally I avoid verm-X as I'm not sure how effective it is :-\ I've stuck to marriages for a few years now having faffed about with doses and quantities of Flub in a pot! We haven't had a worm problem at all :fc:
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I have used Marriages with Flubenvet for a few years now with very good results. Yesterday I tried to buy some more for some new pullets that have just arrived. However, Marriages website states that there is currently a national shortage of Flubenvet. They have run out of supplies and will not have any more before the end of October. I have tried to buy small quantities of straight Flubenvet from other suppliers, but with no luck. Don't want to wait till the end of the month to worm my new girls. Can anyone recommend an alternative?
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I just bought the last two bags from my local supplier. They said there was a supply problem and wouldn't have any more for a while. Didn't know how long.
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Same happened in Spring. Not sure why they haven't twigged that many people worm every spring and autumn and produce/buy more in!
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Havn't been able to get flubs vet for months, was told to feed live mealworms, they eat the worms inside the chooks.. Seems to have worked for us :fc:
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that's really interesting Carl - where do you buy them from? (i can only find the dried ones lol!) does that mean they survive inside the stomach then?
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I just finshed using solubenol its water based, if you have lots of birds it seems more economic. It seemed to clear out the birds. You get it in a large sachet which i transfered to a sterile jar. I then removed the quantity required with a syringe for measuring, i put it in another jar and used that as a shaker to mix it with water i then diluted it further in each waterer. You need to do a few sums at the start re voumes of water / approx total weight of your birds and you have to carry out the treatment fresh each day for a week but it was £14 for the packet which did for me
http://www.viovet.co.uk/Non-Prescription_Medicines-Birds-Wormers-Solubenol_Oral_Emulsion/c119_11_1182_1181/category.html (http://www.viovet.co.uk/Non-Prescription_Medicines-Birds-Wormers-Solubenol_Oral_Emulsion/c119_11_1182_1181/category.html)
sell it
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that's really interesting Carl - where do you buy them from? (i can only find the dried ones lol!) does that mean they survive inside the stomach then?
We get them from a local pet shop called kennlegate they told us to do it.. Have found out since if you buy one lot and add them to a bowl of oatmeal you will have a endless supply..have a look on YouTube mealworm raising if u like and they have stock I will get u some when we come to visit at the end of the month