The Accidental Smallholder Forum
Livestock => Poultry & Waterfowl => Topic started by: Oneeyedhen on September 05, 2012, 03:03:15 pm
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Does anyone use Verm X wormer and what do you think of it? Its what I have used and I am pretty sure they dont have a worm problem its just that it seems to be the only hen wormer I can find locally and I wondered if i should be using anything else.
Thanks, OEH
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I've always used Flubenvet. Spring and Autumn.
I don't hold out much confidence in VermX - I'm sure its great at what it does but not sure the herbal properties would strike out true worm burden but I stand to be corrected.
I actually buy Marriages layers pellets that come ready impregnated with the flubenvet. The agri store will order them in according to how many hens you have means how long you need to dose with them. There is no egg withdrawal and I have never seen a problem with worms here :thumbsup:
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I have been using flubenvet as that is the only wormer that's licensed for use in poultry. However my problem with it is that surely if you give the same wormer frequently, resistance to it builds up. That is what I learnt while working for an agricultural merchant and we always advised farmers worming cattle, sheep etc to rotate their wormers. So far as well as I can tell without a faecal worm count, my chooks have not built up a resistance yet. I have also given Panacur 10% although it's not licensed for use in poultry. I have heard that some poultry keepers will also use an ivermectin spot on which also works against mites and lice. The best thing to do is get advice from your vet.
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Agree with Plums.
You can order Marriages pellets with Flubenvet if you can't find them locally.
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Yup the marriages pellets with flubenvet are the easiest to use. No messing about measuring doses out or any other nonsense just feed it. You will notice that the vermex ads in the magazines no longer claim it to be a "wormer" but something to do with intestinal hygeine. It's not a licensed veterinary product so doesn't have to be tested and therefore cannot make any claims about what it might or might not do.
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Thanks guys I'll look into the pellets. :thumbsup:
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My girls have flubenvet too. Unfortunately I didn't know about the pellets and bought a tub of powder. It's a right faf but being the stinge that I am I refuse to buy the pellets while the powder is still in date ::)
Definitely go for the impregnated pellets if it is flubenvet you choose. :thumbsup:
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Brijjy
Can you expand a bit on the Panacur and Invermectin treatments?? I would be interested to give our chooks a really good "grotting out" with regards to parasites as they are not laying as well as they should and some are looking a bit forsaken.
Also - they are going to need to be a bit more up to the mark now as they have a cockerel to keep them in order. Boy oh boy - he didn't waste any time!!!! I saw him hatch!!!! It's all rather indecent :-))
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I just bought a sachet of solubenol to try - anyone tried it yet?
it's a water soluble form similar to flubenvet but you have to make it fresh every day
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With the Panacur 10% you dose each bird individually, by mouth, which if you have alot can be time consuming. The ivermectin, which I haven't personally used, is just dropped onto the skin. This wormer is apparently not as good at worming but if you get one that has an insecticide in it, gets rid of mite, lice and fleas. I was looking at one called Eprinex. It's licensed for cattle but I do know a few poultry keepers that use it on their breeding stock. I wouldn't use on birds to eat and it would be sensible not to eat the eggs for a while either. The Panacur 10% is similar to flubenvet and is used for small animals, cats and dogs etc. And you can get it in 100ml bottles, great for smaller flocks. I just followed the dose rates on the bottle for dogs and re-calculated for chickens. I will try and get hold of the chap that uses the ivermectin one to find out exactly what make it is.
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Cool - thanks very much :thumbsup:
Very informative
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Cool - thanks very much :thumbsup:
Very informative
Where's that "like" button :thumbsup:
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Ivomec is the chook version. If you ever have Red mite actually on the chickens, then aside from treating the house, you add this onto the birds. Literally a drop per hen. 7 days withdrawal, I think....... Haven't used it for a while.
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We been waiting for a delivery of flubenvet for approx 5 weeks now .!! It's highly rated but it seems to be unavailable in most areas.? Even my vet said so too .. But I gave my chooks live mealworms as these Eat the worms inside. One of my chooks Nugget was poorly with suspected worms and we fed her Verm x and live worms .. She well now and doing grand .. :thumbsup:
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Where do you get live mealworms from Heidih? My chooks like the dried ones. It would be good to try them on live ones.
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Suzie, live foods direct online is one of a number of companies selling by box and kilo. Wax worms are available too. I feed these as a pick me up. Highly fatty but they seem to help. Expensive though.
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I started doing a bit of research on this and live meal worms can be the start of creating my own mealworm colony ;D ;D ;D
How to Raise Mealworms Complete Guide (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LczqEONN1Ho#)
which would be great as the chickens LOOOOVE them and they are expensive.
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Thats very good vidio and a new thing to try .A good thing for the kids and yes i am an old dad .
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Suziequeue...hi..you can get live mealworms from your pet store and pets at home etc..they about 2.50 a box..they love them xx :wave:
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Definitely going to do this once we get installed in our new house :-)
OH is behind the idea too which is :thumbsup: :thumbsup: