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Livestock => Pigs => Topic started by: secuono on August 30, 2012, 12:41:21 am

Title: Pigs still wee little
Post by: secuono on August 30, 2012, 12:41:21 am
So my Potbelly piglets are still tiny, it's been a month and I really see very little growth. If they wouldn't scream bloody murder, I would weigh them.
How fast do they grow??
First 3 pics from the first week I got them. Last two pics from today with my hand as size reference. They are about 9-10in tall. The two black pigs have gotten a little taller. Pink boy was 3mo, blacks were 2mo. Now, obviously, 4 and 3mo old.
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d101/secuono/oink.jpg)
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d101/secuono/piuyiop.jpg)
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d101/secuono/a18.jpg)
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Title: Re: Pigs still wee little
Post by: kitchen cottage on August 30, 2012, 07:32:29 am
and they said micro pigs don't exist!

You don't need to pick them up to weigh them, you can calculate their weight (which is what I do).  I have a pig tape but there's a calculation you can do with a normal tape thats better.  If you scroll down, you'll see a post "do pig tape measures work", the calculation is posted on there.

I think they are adorable though!!
Title: Re: Pigs still wee little
Post by: HappyHippy on August 30, 2012, 07:37:28 am
Hiya  :wave:
Because you're looking at them every day you won't notice the size change ( a bit like how it is with kids  ;))
Pot bellied pigs are slower growing anyway, I wouldn't worry overly much at the minute  :)
As long as they are healthy and eating well try not to panic.

If you don't want to pick them up (I put my small pigs & piglets in one of the blue woven Ikea bags and hang on a luggage scale to weigh them  ;)) You could measure behind their front legs and their length, there's a calculation to figure out approx weight  (heart girth x heart girth x length - all measured in meters so you'd have 0.something ;) muliply that answer by 69.3 and you've got their weight in Kg) or you could just take their photo in the same spot every time (against a gate or something of fixed size) to give you a visual reference.
HTH
Karen
Title: Re: Pigs still wee little
Post by: Sylvia on August 30, 2012, 08:17:36 am
My Kune piglets seem to stay tiny for weeks, then I suddenly see chunky, meaty weaners flying across the field towards me. I dare say you will find the same :o :o
Title: Re: Pigs still wee little
Post by: Fowgill Farm on August 30, 2012, 09:31:37 am
So cute  :thumbsup: 
Love 'em when they're babies.
Mandy  :pig:
Title: Re: Pigs still wee little
Post by: robert waddell on August 30, 2012, 01:15:50 pm
pigs can stay at what looks like a standstill then take a burst of growing  even with pigs that can put on 12 kilos a week they don't look much bigger    :farmer:
Title: Re: Pigs still wee little
Post by: secuono on August 30, 2012, 02:02:40 pm
Thanks!
Only pig I have a chance at measuring would be the pink boy, I'll look for my tape measure and give it a shot.
Title: Re: Pigs still wee little
Post by: Sylvia on August 30, 2012, 04:48:28 pm
They look healthy enough, anyway :pig: :pig:
Title: Re: Pigs still wee little
Post by: Mammyshaz on August 30, 2012, 06:52:37 pm
 :love: they look cute.
Title: Re: Pigs still wee little
Post by: secuono on August 31, 2012, 09:50:11 pm
Well, here's one of their rare meals.
Usually, they get nothing but pellets and the grass under their feet. Today we made pickles and I had some left overs as well as slightly spoiled veggies I tossed in. I mixed their pellets in as well to absorb any excess liquids.
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Title: Re: Pigs still wee little
Post by: mwncigirl on August 31, 2012, 10:02:58 pm
Not sure if anyone has mentioned it earlier but measure them with a pig tape (or normal tape) while they're eating and they will hardly notice! Well, mine don't anyway.
Title: Re: Pigs still wee little
Post by: secuono on August 31, 2012, 11:22:32 pm
When they are eating is the only time I can get so close as in the pics. Only the pink pig lets me rub and pat him, even w/o food. Black boy I can sort of pet when eating, black girl sometimes squeals when she notices I touched her. So, they are far from domesticated, lol.
Title: Re: Pigs still wee little
Post by: Berkshire Boy on September 03, 2012, 12:35:11 pm
Hopefully none of that food has been in your kitchen.
Title: Re: Pigs still wee little
Post by: deepinthewoods on September 03, 2012, 12:38:35 pm
op is in usa bb.
Title: Re: Pigs still wee little
Post by: Berkshire Boy on September 03, 2012, 02:27:36 pm
Oh sorry didn't realise. :innocent:
Title: Re: Pigs still wee little
Post by: secuono on September 04, 2012, 12:47:53 am
Hopefully none of that food has been in your kitchen.

Why?
Title: Re: Pigs still wee little
Post by: robert waddell on September 04, 2012, 07:06:57 am
It is illegal to give your pigs anything that comes out of your domestic kitchen as it may have came into contact with meat and got contaminated. The rules are very strict on this. You can prepair the veg in a shed and you are OK with that. :farmer: but this only applies in Britain and Europe :farmer:
Title: Re: Pigs still wee little
Post by: secuono on September 04, 2012, 02:58:21 pm
Does that apply to pet pigs over there, too?
That seems very backwards, anything to do with those mad cow type scares that went on years ago?
Also very weird since I've always heard pigs eat meat...
Title: Re: Pigs still wee little
Post by: deepinthewoods on September 04, 2012, 03:19:38 pm
its to prevent the spread of foot and mouth disease. hardly backward really.  this applies to all pigs.
Title: Re: Pigs still wee little
Post by: robert waddell on September 04, 2012, 03:47:07 pm
to those in the EU it is certainly not backward      swill had been fed to pigs for years  and the last outbreak of F&M in Britain was traced back to a farm that used swill  to feed to the pigs   all this goes to landfill now    poultry used to get recycled poultry manure fed back to them  this practise originated in the states     they were fed very high protein content feed and they just crap the protein out them  so what better way to cut costs      Britain used to feed meat and bone meal to cattle    this i also understand is done in the states   or was common practise       two things happened in Britain   for two consecutive years we were forced to treat our cattle with organophosphate to eradicate warble fly       during the treatment period these cattle if they died were made into meat and bone meal for inclusion in there feed   at the same time the renderers went from a batch process to a continuous flow process therefore it did not reach the temp of before     and you have the bones of mad cow disease (no pun intended)    the Americans only need to look at there gulf war veterans to see the affect of organophosphate    agent orange is one of them  :farmer:
Title: Re: Pigs still wee little
Post by: secuono on September 04, 2012, 04:25:55 pm
I've never agreed with feeding herbivores meat, that is appalling. But to feed an omnivore meat, as long as it's clean and not drugged or diseased, it should be fine.

How does the Foot & Mouth disease come about? If someone feeds infected meat back, no?

I'm not arguing with you guys. I just have no idea about this stuff. I don't pay attention to such scares and the news, it's rarely anything but lies and depressing. The media likes to control people, so I just skip it and search for the real truth.

We are trying to raise our own meat and greens. I haven't fed the pigs any meat myself, as the dogs and chickens get those scraps. The rabbits eat the meadow under their feet with clean rabbit pellets. Sheep and horses eat nothing but the green under them and hay.

I don't know, I never liked those large commercial places. I really don't know how such an idea ever came to 'work', all they do is pump chemicals into them to make them live to butcher date and then feed them what ever is cheapest...it's unbelievable...
Title: Re: Pigs still wee little
Post by: robert waddell on September 04, 2012, 05:02:09 pm
somewhere at any one time there will be an outbreak of foot and mouth   somewhere in the world        the one problem area is south America     which was supposed to be the originating source of the foot and mouth contaminated meat  that was supplied to the British army barracks near to the farm that was identified
 
Britain's animal herd is free of  foot and mouth although some would opt for an inoculation programme  if the same scenario were to reoccur       personally i have no experience of this disease although in the last outbreak a friends entire herd was taken out
no argument on my part either
 
large commercial herds of whatever  can be beneficial      you have huge feed lots/ dairy's /poultry/and swine herds     far larger than in Britain    and there is complaints in Britain when they are proposed :farmer: