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Livestock => Pigs => Topic started by: lill on August 28, 2012, 12:59:17 pm
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Has anyone had any experiances of this birth defect. It has 3 claws instead of 2 on both the front legs.
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not seen that Lill, will be interesting as to whether it affects him/her in walking. Presume you'll try to get it through to slaughter?
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We used to have a line of cats when I was growing up with double dew claws which looked like that :cat:
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Hi Lil :wave:
I was going to say it reminds me of dew claws in dogs - never seen it in pigs before though. is it only the 1 piglet?
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Hi Lynne,
Yes it is only the one, it put me in mind of a wee old man, his chin hairs were white, his jaw line curved upwards, yes yes i know you will think i'm stupid in saying it, but this wee piglet was just very old before his time. Even his teeth were brown/rotten. I know that there is a disease in humans that is the same as described above.
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I'm trying to think of the name of it - it'll come to me when I'm thinking of something else I expect :eyelashes:
I know this might sound like a daft question - was he born/is he still alive?
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The only thing that rings a bell with hairy pigs with me is PMWS - it's a wasting disease, but that's about all I know about it.
Here's a link to the BPA Q&A's - scroll right down to the bottom and see if it sounds like it :-\
http://www.britishpigs.org.uk/Vets%20Q&As_SUMMER2011.pdf (http://www.britishpigs.org.uk/Vets%20Q&As_SUMMER2011.pdf)
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Hi Karen :wave:
Some of the problems on there sound quite :P & that poor pig with sunburnt ears - owch!
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no Karen it is not PWMS that affects 6-8 week old pigs this one is only two weeks
funny you should flag up the BPA Q&A section the hummpy backed pigs i have seen that in pigs sold in central Scotland just this year don't worry Karen they were not yours :farmer:
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Was the sow late farrowing? There's an old saying that pigs born with black teeth never do well and it is associated with the sow going over her due date. Pigs born with extra toes are not as unusual as you might think and the only thing I would say is not to keep them for breeding but ensure that they go for fattening.
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I know that there is a disease in humans that is the same as described above.
Are you thinking of progeria?
Interesting stuff
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hello Mr pig no it was only 2 days past the date but she was not her usual self for about a week i can pinpoint the date if it would help 13 live piglets but two very small of which this was one they the 2 weighed about half a pound while the 11 big ones weighed about 2-3 pounds we did have a heifer once that had a gestation of 11 months she was AId so her dates were correct
yorkshirelass yes that is what Lillian was thinking of :farmer:
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Hi Lynne, No the wee piglet died which really pissed me off as I had moved them from the farrowing pen to the playpen. It was also blind in the left eye so it may have not been in the best of health but wonder if I did not move them would it still of died, I will never know .
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Hi Lynne, No the wee piglet died which really pissed me off as I had moved them from the farrowing pen to the playpen. It was also blind in the left eye so it may have not been in the best of health but wonder if I did not move them would it still of died, I will never know .
Oh Lillian :bouquet: Nature has it's way ...
:love: :pig: :love:
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Yes, nature is a funny thing and we all have to take what nature gives us, tiny was only half a pound compared to some of the other wee fatties at 3 pound, would like to see if he would have had a good quality of life or if it would have been hindered as he was also blind in his left eye, better he died now than after he was weaned or even older.
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I've just been reading-up on Progeria - sounds awful :(
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Just heard of another breeder that has got piglets defects
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Is it a similar condition Lillian or something different?
:love: :pig: :love:
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similar :farmer:
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curiouser and curiouser....
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Is this something genetic (thinking of breed-specific or line-specific) or caused by environment (lack of a certain minerals, or eating poisonous plants when pregnant)?
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It is two of my Tamworth piglets, now 2.5 days old. As they were being born, which I attended, I noticed two had what looked like extremely long, soft, white toenails that were far longer than normal. Within 24 hours these had dried up on 3 legs resulting in black toenails but solid, hard, and normal shaped feet. The fourth leg, back one both times, the whole bottom of the foot was by now looking completely deformed, with what looked like extra tissue, almost club foot appearance, broken and weeping. The photos attached are of the least bad piglet - both have been to the vet yesterday and the other piglet, where the open weeping tissue had spread up to the knee, has been treated and bandaged, so I cannot take a photo at the moment.
The vets do not have a clue what it is, so they are on antibiotics and may or may not pull through - other than this problem they both seem healthy and are feeding OK. It is unlikely to be a breeding problem as she was AIed with Yorkshireman semen from Deerpark, and the two piglets from her first litter, with Royal Standard Deepark semen, were both perfectly formed.
As Robert and Lill have also had a deformed piglet leg this summer, and it has been a summer without precedence for zillions of mosquitoes, we were wondering whether there could, just could, be any connection with Schmallenbergs, even though it is claimed that pigs are meant to be unaffected. However, it is such a new disease, how can anyone be a million per cent sure? Certainly if there are any other piglets out there being born around now with very obscure deformities, perhaps the authorities should start looking into it. Or it could just be a one off bad luck thing - in a post in February this year, Oaklands were quite adamant pigs couldn't get it.
So there we go - time will tell what happens to my two, keeping a close watch and my fingers crossed for the moment. The rest of the piglets appear to be 100% normal, as were the two that were stillborn (just) at birth. Tamsaddle
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Forgot to add the photos - here they are. Tamsaddle
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Schmallenberg crossed my mind but as I know nothing about pigs I guessed that they would have been pregnant after the danger-time?
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when we were in peru (high altitude- middle of nowhere) we saw a sow with this (she had piglets in tow)
seemed to be fine