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Livestock => Poultry & Waterfowl => Topic started by: Sylvia on August 23, 2012, 04:15:26 pm

Title: Chickens all gone
Post by: Sylvia on August 23, 2012, 04:15:26 pm
A fox got into my "fox-proof" run last night and killed all my poultry.  It has left me feeling stunned and sickened. I am looking for some now who will come a few nights and shoot foxes.
Title: Re: Chickens all gone
Post by: Bionic on August 23, 2012, 04:21:16 pm
Awww Sylvia thats such a shame.  I see the fox here most nights and live in fear of waking up to the same fate.
I hope you can find someone to come and help you
Sally
Title: Re: Chickens all gone
Post by: deepinthewoods on August 23, 2012, 04:23:33 pm
oh sylvia im soooo sorry to hear that.
your not having a good run of things at the mo, my thougths are with you.xx :tree:
Title: Re: Chickens all gone
Post by: in the hills on August 23, 2012, 04:27:53 pm
 :bouquet:  Sorry Sylvia.
Title: Re: Chickens all gone
Post by: Rosemary on August 23, 2012, 05:31:31 pm
 :'( What a shame.
Title: Re: Chickens all gone
Post by: Greenmoor on August 23, 2012, 05:32:18 pm
 :( Sorry to hear your sad news.
Title: Re: Chickens all gone
Post by: HelenVF on August 23, 2012, 05:39:38 pm
How awful.  Bad enough to lose a couple, but the whole lot!!  Really sorry :(

Helen
Title: Re: Chickens all gone
Post by: Sudanpan on August 23, 2012, 05:44:07 pm
Know exactly how you feel  :'( :'(  We lost all ours in one hit last year.


 :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: Chickens all gone
Post by: suziequeue on August 23, 2012, 06:05:29 pm
Awww Sylvia - sorry to hear that. We have a fine cuckoo maran cockerel - FTGH - if you want to start again and need a cockerel


 :bouquet: :bouquet:
Title: Re: Chickens all gone
Post by: Fleecewife on August 23, 2012, 06:26:23 pm
Oh no Sylvia - what a terrible shock  :hug: :hug: :hug:  Poor chooks  :furious:
Title: Re: Chickens all gone
Post by: clydesdaleclopper on August 23, 2012, 07:11:55 pm
That's awful  :hug:
Title: Re: Chickens all gone
Post by: HappyHippy on August 23, 2012, 07:23:20 pm
Sorry to hear about your chickens  :gloomy:
Too far away to come and help, but I think even if you 'take out' your resident ones, others might move in to their place  :-\
We have foxes here (lots of them !) and we never lost any of ours to them - I was told that the smell of pigs would keep the foxes away. Might it be worth keeping your chicken house close to the pigs ? (If it's not already) Hope you get the bu**er  :fc:
Title: Re: Chickens all gone
Post by: Brucklay on August 23, 2012, 07:31:24 pm
So sorry for you Sylvia - that must be just awful - shooting here on the estate stopped this year - we've lost 3 ducks to the fox - I live in fear and am very punctual at bed time now  :gloomy:
Title: Re: Chickens all gone
Post by: Mammyshaz on August 23, 2012, 07:36:05 pm
 :bouquet: awful news. So sorry t hear this Sylvia  :hug:
Title: Re: Chickens all gone
Post by: manian on August 23, 2012, 07:39:19 pm
we lost some a while back :gloomy: :'(
 :bouquet: :bouquet: for you
Title: Re: Chickens all gone
Post by: darkbrowneggs on August 23, 2012, 07:42:27 pm
So sorry Sylvia.  What a dreadful thing to have happened.   :'(   Will PM you
Title: Re: Chickens all gone
Post by: chrismahon on August 23, 2012, 08:03:14 pm
That's terrible news Sylvia and I feel so sorry for you. We had this a month back -found a huge scattering of feathers and birds lying motionless in the run. Thought our place was foxproof on the two sides one would aproach from, but it came in the opposite direction through adjoining gardens and right across the Orchard, down a shingle path and over a 1 metre gate
 
Hope you catch the fox.
 
What sort of fencing dd it get into? We want to build a proper foxproof enclosure and would be grateful for your advice.
Title: Re: Chickens all gone
Post by: thestephens on August 23, 2012, 08:20:48 pm
ditto here, we lost 17 over the summer, one night he took 9, >:( his route was through Boris the boars pen!
We have added height to our fencing and boards with heavy rocks where he was digging under.
got 7 new hens and adding more soon
Title: Re: Chickens all gone
Post by: doganjo on August 23, 2012, 08:27:14 pm
Know how you feel, lost all my ducks one night, then a  few weeks later one night I was restless, went out to check and the hens were dead and feathers everywhere.  One survived and her and my new ones are now in my brick garage in a  6ft metal dog run with netting over the top. They'll get out when I'm around only!
Title: Re: Chickens all gone
Post by: Bramblecot on August 23, 2012, 09:18:59 pm
Sorry about  :chook: . :bouquet: .   I have lost mine mainly during the day when they free-range but I know the fox is there at night too as it sets off the dog barking.  I think they patrol every night.  We have had no joy shooting them but the neighbour has shot dozens - we must be over-run with them.  It is so disheartening :( :( .
Title: Re: Chickens all gone
Post by: Moleskins on August 23, 2012, 11:31:38 pm
  I see the fox here most nights and live in fear of waking up to the same fate.

Sally


Totally baffled Sally, if you see him most nights why haven't you shot him or had him shot? Hens are a bit too dear to replace IMHO to not deal with a fox.
Title: Re: Chickens all gone
Post by: Roxy on August 23, 2012, 11:42:18 pm
So sorry this has happened ....its sickening when the fox gets among poultry.  Happened to me some years ago, and I know I was devasted. Mine are free range, but  have been lucky not to lose any.  Do have a very good man who comes shooting, and he clears them out every so often.
Title: Re: Chickens all gone
Post by: Victorian Farmer on August 23, 2012, 11:58:40 pm
not good would donate a new hen if not to far away  :wave:
Title: Re: Chickens all gone
Post by: Pedwardine on August 24, 2012, 01:49:16 am
Oh, so sorry to hear that. We've had the odd one picked off from time to time at twilight when they're making their way to bed but I can't imagine what it must be like to lose the whole lot. So many things are suggested to 'foxproof' chooks but I guess if the critters are determined enough, and they are clever and observant little sods, they'll still get their intended prey. My thoughts are with you. Hope you get sorted out with both getting the culprit and replacing your lovely chickens soon.  :fc:
Title: Re: Chickens all gone
Post by: jaykay on August 24, 2012, 02:50:19 am
Oh no!  :'( 
:hug: :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: Chickens all gone
Post by: Sylvia on August 24, 2012, 08:01:47 am
Thank you all for your comfort. DBE, have replied to your pm. About eighteen months ago I had a very large area fenced off with deer netting, the bottom turned out to 2ft. and pegged down and the whole about 7ft. high and festooned with barbed wire. The gate was concreted underneath and this has worked until now. When I can summon up the courage and without howling I will go and find out exactly how he got in, put it right and start again.
What I can't replace is my flock of Cornish Game that I have bred so carefully over the years, 'nor, do I think, I want to now. I will choose another breed. I grieve especially for "Treeve Treherne" my beloved cockerel.
Karen my hen run is right next to my pig's field. Jim wants to get a couple of Alpacas but I'm afraid that if they will attack foxes, they might also attack little dogs or my whippets.
One grace note amongst all this jangle, whilst I was dealing with the carnage I found a Khaki Campbell duck that had hidden from the fox. She will go the farm up the road who keep a small flock.
Chrismahon, when I find out where the weak spot is I will let you know.
One good thing about going to live on the land, I will be on hand to guard my stock and my whippets will have some sport!!!!!!
 
Title: Re: Chickens all gone
Post by: Bionic on August 24, 2012, 09:10:43 am
  I see the fox here most nights and live in fear of waking up to the same fate.

Sally


Totally baffled Sally, if you see him most nights why haven't you shot him or had him shot? Hens are a bit too dear to replace IMHO to not deal with a fox.

Moleskins, I don't have a gun and probably wouldn't be a good enough shot if I did. I am hoping the local hunt will come out soon. They come on foot with guns out of season
Sally
Title: Re: Chickens all gone
Post by: SouthMains on August 24, 2012, 09:23:46 am
One good thing about going to live on the land, I will be on hand to guard my stock and my whippets will have some sport!!!!!!
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Would it be possible to have your whippets in with the chooks.  I am just in the process of redesigning my chicken space and plan to put the dog kennel in wit the chickens so that hopefully the dogs should deter the foxes.  I don't have any experience with whippets, but I know that my dogs are totally fine with chickens, to the point that my 10 week old chicks now sit on my black lab in the sun as she is obviously a very nice warm and comfy perch!



Title: Re: Chickens all gone
Post by: Sylvia on August 24, 2012, 01:10:54 pm
SouthMains, I don't think my whippets and hens would go together :o  though I might get a border collie pup and kennel it in the run, if I can find the right one.
Anyway I found a hole CHEWED in the netting this morning, they have made a hole big enough for me to get both hands through, so I will have to think of the best way 'round that problem. Any suggestions anyone?
Title: Re: Chickens all gone
Post by: WarescotFarm on August 24, 2012, 01:58:57 pm
Oh that is just HORRID! Mr Fox needs a bullet up the backside!

A fox has made 3 attempts into our 'fox-proof' run without success yet but I worry about it too.
They must be developing razor sharp teeth or getting some opposable thumbs working the wire clippers - little sods!

Deep breath and start again x
Title: Re: Chickens all gone
Post by: Fleecewife on August 24, 2012, 02:03:35 pm
When you say the fox is getting into the hen run - are the hens not locked in a secure house at night?  Ours free range all day but we lock them into sheds at night.  Fox learned to open the popholes at one stage so they are all now extra secure with two catches and a sliding bar and the people door has a latch, a catch and a hook and eye closure.  A badger could probably still tear its way in.........
Title: Re: Chickens all gone
Post by: WarescotFarm on August 24, 2012, 02:06:57 pm
A badger could probably still tear its way in.........

Can badgers get through a door??? Never thought about badgers  :-\
Title: Re: Chickens all gone
Post by: Sylvia on August 24, 2012, 04:00:16 pm
Badgers, the little b#@gers will tear through a wooden house. Fleecewife, the reason for a fox-proof run was because I was working six nights a week and couldn't get up there in the summer(the holding is six miles away) late enough to shut them away. As I said, this has been fine for about eighteen months, no problems at all.
I have a fancy it may have been a badger who made the hole but definitely fox in there as there are fox droppings.
Anyway, I shall be there in the future, given up work and everything, to shut them away, also I hope the presence of the dogs will make them think twice. The nights I've stayed up there they have gone mad in the night, giving the "Fox, fox" yell.
Title: Re: Chickens all gone
Post by: Fleecewife on August 24, 2012, 04:08:28 pm
Ah that explains it.  We can each only do the best we can with the situation we have.   Something got one of my hens the other day, but it looks as if it was a bird of prey.  Our hens are just in our orchard, yards from the back door but it still happened.   
 
Good luck when you get your next poultry flock  :chook: :chook: :chook: :fc:
 
Yes badgers are really strong and can rip stuff apart and go just where they want to.
Title: Re: Chickens all gone
Post by: WarescotFarm on August 24, 2012, 06:53:39 pm
yikes! we haven't had a badger attack yet then. I thought we were fool proof, continuous loops of chicken wire 25mm looped under the earth and attached on the top. It is a chicken tube!

BUT it is attached to a wooden hen shed which is the hen house, maybe the double locked door is our downfall!
Blimin things!  :rant:

Heart breaking when you have raised your flock and they are gone just like that! Hope you getting on ok x :bouquet: