The Accidental Smallholder Forum
Community => Marketplace => Topic started by: ukag0972 on August 21, 2012, 08:52:45 pm
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I'm looking for a horsebox that will fit my 17hh and growing clydesdale horse. Not sure of a budget, but can I ask youall to keep your ears to the ground for me! Especially those in Scotland!
Thanks folks
Lee
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Headroom might be an issue in some. In the 3.5Ts (assuming it will just be Clydie in there), you might want to look at the Renault Master based ones, since they are front wheel drive and therefore the floor can be a lot lower and that in turn can mean more headroom (think there are 2 height types, you would prob need the higher one).
Other than that it might be a 7.5T. Not sure of your 'vintage', does your licence allow you to drive over 3.5T (if you passed pre 97 it will do). If not you would need to do a towing test for it.
We recently downsized from a 7,5T to a 3.5T as the only traveller now is my 14.2 rather than my now retired 17 hander (hence the interest in head heights of lorries!)
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The other issue to bear in mind is how they are positioned during travel. When we had to move our Clydie the people who helped us had a huge and very swanky horsebox but as he was travelling almost parallel to the direction of travel he was really too long to fit in and had to be squished in a bit.
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Thanks for your reply!
I sat my trailer test last week and passed :thumbsup:
I'd even consider a horse trailer. Again, it needs to have plenty headroom! I know the Ivor Williams new trailers have enough headroom. I've had her in a Bateson, and see is OK in one of them too.
Keep your eyes and ears to the ground
Lee
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The other issue to bear in mind is how they are positioned during travel. When we had to move our Clydie the people who helped us had a huge and very swanky horsebox but as he was travelling almost parallel to the direction of travel he was really too long to fit in and had to be squished in a bit.
Good point, it's easier if (eg as in the Ifor trailer)s you go in one way and out another door and travel forwards. If theres only one ramp then it needs to be pretty wide to allow manoevring and squishing bottoms round etc. for eg our 3.5 (VW LT35) wouldnt do I dont think, in headroom or ramp width.
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The main problem with a trailer is weight !!!! As Clydie's are rather on the heavy side a trailer may not be the answer.
Ifor Williams trailer....even the big ones....have a total weight limit of 2.5t which includes the trailer itself. Unladen weight is in the region of 1 tonne which means your horses cannot exceed 1.5t together.
With your heavy horses I think you might be pushing this too close.
I think a lorry will be better but that WILL have to be a minimum of a 5 tonner
The 3.5 tonne small lorries are exactly that.....but they themselves with people/fuel/etc weigh over 2.2t which leaves you even less load space.
Be careful because VOSA are on a mission at the present time stopping vehicles that are overwight and the fines are not pretty !!!!!!
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Agree - I did say in my post I am assuming that only the Clydie would be in there ie travelling alone!- specified this as you are quite right, no 3.5Tonner and probably no trailer will carry a Clydie plus another horse and be legally under the weight limits, esp once you add tack, fuel and people (and even more so with boxes as plating weights are often signed off before a lot of partitions/living fixtures etc are put in).
If planning to (ever) carry Clydie with another horse, you are really looking at 7.5T. Which can be nice for the horse (our old Bedford TL was lovely for the horses) but is harder on the pocket/fewer garages have the workshops for them/have to travel further for MOTing them. NB They are however comparatively cheaper to buy than 3.5Ts as so many drivers now can ONLY drive a 3.5Tonner under their licence.
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i though vosa were always on a mission accompanied by the police i did hear of one horsey show they stopped them as they were leaving and managed to get the most of them for something licence weight condition tacho drivers hours you name it
from our experience you are allowed up to 100 kilos over your limit per axle but that was with a 16 ton trailer in our case we were 80 kilos heavier per axle (trailer)and allowed to continue although delayed for hours they can hold you there till a bigger capacity vehicle comes to your assistance to transfer the load :farmer:
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my neighbour makes makes ,refurbs,and sells horse boxes (lorry type) if hes not got one to suit he will prob no someone who has .
kinnear horse boxes
terry kinnear 07850335998
near dunfermline