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Livestock => Poultry & Waterfowl => Topic started by: Templelands on July 22, 2012, 10:12:57 pm

Title: Fox Problem
Post by: Templelands on July 22, 2012, 10:12:57 pm
We have a fox problem, with a fox pinching 6 chickens during the day. One right I. Front of our eyes.


What's the best way to sort it? I'm told poison is illegal. Not sure an airifle will work..


Cheers
Title: Re: Fox Problem
Post by: happy larry on July 22, 2012, 10:40:22 pm
Without being critical i would remove the last part of your post,fox needs a bigger calibre,no poison is lawful in the uk.If you let us know your rough location maybe you would get a local member that could help you out.If it helps im in Burton on Trent.
Title: Re: Fox Problem
Post by: omnipeasant on July 22, 2012, 10:40:33 pm
The air rifle will work if your aim is good. Or contact your local hunt. Next door farmer will know who they are.
Title: Re: Fox Problem
Post by: SallyintNorth on July 23, 2012, 02:32:54 am
Contact the hunt.  It's what they're there for.
Title: Re: Fox Problem
Post by: Templelands on July 23, 2012, 06:25:54 am
Thanks. If I'd put am going to poison I would deffo remove that. I'm researching and I discovered that is illegal, so that isn't an option for me.


I'm in Strathaven, South Lanarkshire. I'll look into the local hunt :-)
Title: Re: Fox Problem
Post by: Bionic on July 23, 2012, 09:15:04 am
Templelands,
I had a thread on the same topic recently called Fox Dilema.  The fox hasn't had any of our chickens yet but I feel it is only time as I have seen him lurking about several times.
 
Sallyintnorth suggested the hunt to me also. I have contacted my local one and they were very nice. I will need to pay £25 per year to join but they will sort the problem either by foot with dogs and guns or on horseback when in season (Oct to March).
Sally
Title: Re: Fox Problem
Post by: Sylvia on July 23, 2012, 09:32:07 am
Contact the hunt.  It's what they're there for.

Unfortunately hunting doesn't begin until September. But you will, if you put an ad. out in your local farm merchants or livestock market, find someone to shoot foxes. An air rifle won't do it, not even a powerful one and although foxes are a bloody pest, they deseve a quick death.
I was advised to put out meat with rat-bait in it and can tell you I was very tempted but, so far, common sense and a bit of compassion have stopped me.
Title: Re: Fox Problem
Post by: in the hills on July 23, 2012, 03:16:47 pm
If there is a shoot nearby, try the local gamekeeper. They are keen to keep fox numbers down as they will be putting the poults down soon. Started "lamping" around here now.
Title: Re: Fox Problem
Post by: SallyintNorth on July 23, 2012, 06:33:56 pm
Contact the hunt.  It's what they're there for.

Unfortunately hunting doesn't begin until September.

This is true.  ::)  Guess who gets the prize for the most useless advice of the week.  :dunce:   :notworthy:
Title: Re: Fox Problem
Post by: Rosemary on July 23, 2012, 07:45:42 pm
Contact the hunt.  It's what they're there for.
Unfortunately hunting doesn't begin until September.
This is true.  ::)  Guess who gets the prize for the most useless advice of the week.  :dunce:   :notworthy:


Feels like bl88dy September here  :(
Title: Re: Fox Problem
Post by: Bionic on July 23, 2012, 08:20:04 pm
Although the actual hunt may not begin until Sept your local hunt may go out walking with the dogs and guns as mind do. Its definitely worth contacting them. You may be surprised.
Sally
Title: Re: Fox Problem
Post by: Bumblebear on July 23, 2012, 09:24:48 pm
What about the old "peeing round the chicken coop trick ;)  Hubby and the dogs do the area thoroughly and <touch wood,  :fc:> no fox attacks so far even though they live in the copse just behind us.....
Title: Re: Fox Problem
Post by: graham-j on July 24, 2012, 05:51:22 pm
Hi,your best bet wold be erect something to stop the fox from getting to your birds in the first place.A fence preferably electrified will help.
It doesn't matter how many foxes you kill,there will be another one along sooner or later.And one thing you an be sure of with a fox is,, if it can get to your birds sooner or later it will
Human and dog pee is just an old wives tale it doesn't work.
Prevention is always better that cure,but that dosn't mean I wouldn't be reaching for my 12 bore.

Graham.
 
Title: Re: Fox Problem
Post by: chrismahon on July 24, 2012, 08:14:53 pm
I agree with Graham-j basically. But the jury is out for me and human urine, as our boundary protected with that is the only one a fox hasn't crossed to get in. Hasn't got through the wire and hasn't crossed over the electrified boundary. But has taken a very long route round through adjoining gardens to reach the chickens it now knows are there. Twice in 4 weeks.
Title: Re: Fox Problem
Post by: graham-j on July 24, 2012, 10:50:07 pm
Hi,OK I admit I do it too but I have been told by a lot of people that it doesn't work,I certainly wouldn't want to rely on it as my only form of defense,but it can't do any harm.A good excuse to sit up by the pens and have a beer or two as well ;D

Graham
Title: Re: Fox Problem
Post by: Moleskins on July 25, 2012, 05:52:06 pm
And you think you've got problems,


www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vzgnTEMyCg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vzgnTEMyCg#ws)
Title: Re: Fox Problem
Post by: chrismahon on July 25, 2012, 07:59:41 pm
That's an urban fox that's been illegally released into the countryside Moleskins. No fear of humans at all.
Title: Re: Fox Problem
Post by: Moleskins on July 25, 2012, 11:59:20 pm
Not much fear of dogs either it seemed!
Title: Re: Fox Problem
Post by: Sylvia on July 26, 2012, 07:28:07 am
A rifle or a sight hound is the only cure for him. How fat and sleek he is!!!
Title: Re: Fox Problem
Post by: Bionic on July 26, 2012, 09:19:04 am
He was licking his lips too.  Great video  ;D
Sally
Title: Re: Fox Problem
Post by: sabrina on July 26, 2012, 09:40:24 am
very clear that he knows no fear of people and little of the dog. Even has the cheek to mark the area as his. Means to have the chickens. Hope you get him before he wipes out your birds.
Title: Re: Fox Problem
Post by: Small Farmer on July 26, 2012, 10:20:25 am
The advantage of the fox with no fear is that he doesn't know he's going to be shot so he exposes himself to the hunter!  The mystery of our killer is that her den is really quite close to the gamekeeper's house - so the wtf has he been doing for the past three years.  He is a man of few words, mostly containing the word "off"


I've seen it recommended to put a wire around the chicken fence at about 9" high and a yard out from the fence - the point from where the fox would launch from to jump the fence.  Only snag I can see is a 9" electric trip wire around the pen!