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Livestock => Goats => Topic started by: smudger on June 15, 2012, 10:02:51 am
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I'm new to all this with new and nervous goats, so thinking a machine might help initially to get the whole business done quicker whilst I improve my technique (plus also mean someone else can cover for the odd weekend away). There was a post a few days ago recommending a type but it was about $180 plus shipping. This seems cheaper but no idea if any good:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190611982980&fromMakeTrack=true&ssPageName=VIP:watchlink:top:en#ht_5506wt_1162 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190611982980&fromMakeTrack=true&ssPageName=VIP:watchlink:top:en#ht_5506wt_1162)
Any experienced it or know how it compares to the other one? (I'll find the post and paste here).
It was jakay : [size=78%]http://udderlyez.com/goat_milkers.php (http://udderlyez.com/goat_milkers.php)[/size]
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Mmmm. Just looking at it..... Looks fiddly and insubstantial plus keeping tubes properly clean for milking is a hassle.
Yes, it was me who posted about the Udderly Ez. I'm not involved with the company in any way I am just extremely impressed with it as a product.
There are UK distributors so that might be cheaper. I've had mine for 3 years, recently dropped it and broke the 'jaw’ of the pump that clips it onto the bottle. Thought I'd have to buy a new pump, which I was prepared to do, it's so good. But no, it turns out you can buy spares and bits to service it with too :thumbsup:
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Jaykay
Just found one on a horse website but they weren't sure that it could be used for goats. the brochure says "animal milker" then goes on about this teat, this insert and I got lost. If you buy one, do you basically get everything for any animal?
They can get it delivered for tomorrow which would be a life saver :thumbsup:
or do you know a uk goat supplier one?
thx
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Its ok. I've ordered it from http://shop.horserequisites.co.uk/epages/Gagar.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/13062006-11837/Products/V00014 (http://shop.horserequisites.co.uk/epages/Gagar.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/13062006-11837/Products/V00014)
She opened the box and confirmed it does all animals.
Thx jaykay.
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Oh, too slow.
I was going to say that the tube and inserts are specific to the animals, ie horses, goats etc. Otherwise it's the same.
I'll find the details of a UK supplier and send them to you, if the horse ones don't work for your goats (they might well) then the tube and inserts will be pretty cheap to replace, the pump and bottles are the more expensive bit.
What bottles have you bought? I have three 'quart' bottles plus the little 'colostrum' one. You need quart bottles for milking goats.
Just checked, it's the Newmarket people you've bought from that I've dealt with before for parts and they're good.
I'd just ring and check about bottles and inserts.
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Could I have those details too please Jaykay? My wrists are starting to suffer :-\
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Here is the company:
www.horserequisites.co.uk (http://www.horserequisites.co.uk)
[email protected]
01638 664619
Black Bear Lane
Newmarket
Suffolk
CB8 0WB
I found them very helpful when I needed spares. I bought my original imported but they were less common then.
As I said though, for goat milking you definitely need 'goat tubes and inserts' for the top of the bottles and you need quart bottles, not just the small one that comes with the horse milker for getting colostrum (which is what it was first developed for).
You can see the different bits on the Udderly Ez (http://udderlyez.com/goat_milkers.php) website.
The pump still needs some hand strength, to squeeze the 'trigger handle' but I find it aggravates my arthritic fingers and wrists far less than full hand milking does - and it can't be kicked over, doesn't need filtering, copes with oddly directed teats, makes a friend relief-milking much more similar to the normal milking so awkward goats don't refuse to let down their milk......not that I'm accusing Ellie of being awkward or anything ;)
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Thank you :thumbsup:
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jaykay
arrived today. Unfortunately it is just the horse one and not a general one. can get round the small bottles for now but not sure about the inserts and tube - do i have to go to american site order (got a new goat who is bursting to be milked, by time I have got her to let down whilst holding her up and retraining her I'm knackered and haven't milked her out completely yet. Do the attachments replicate the way goats should be milked therefore can't even try the horse one?
thx
sarah
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Udderly ez Goat Milking (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Utne4hGY_hU#)
Henry Milker II (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLFiRbiCCV8#ws)
Segel Milking Machine (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0v-uDTsYyU#)
Milking a Goat with a Vacuum Sealer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMDpUBuSSlQ#)
Henry Milker - Goat Milking Machine (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RGyqsWL434#)
Any help?
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Thx Jingle joys but I have looked at the udderlyez website dvds (which are also the ones sent on the instructional dvds) but they do not actually explain clearly the differences between the models. I've emailed the company direct but probably won't get a response till next week.
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Success!
In desperation I thought i would try it (reading literature it seems the silicon inserts stop milk getting into the machine, so you have to clean it - worth the risk). And when I looked at the accessories page there didn't seem to be many difference between goats and mares other than the silicon insert and size of glass jar.
It even worked on goat that wouldn't 'let down', she was rock hard on one udder that hadn't been milked for 2 days (not for lack of trying as I was with her for 2 hours last night). So despite saying hand milk to get milk flowing it did the whole job on a very nervous, tense goat.
Fab, fab product (thx jakay!). So great in fact my miserly husband says get another one so can milk two udders at a time and have a back up if one needs repair.
John at Udderlyez also emailed back after I had milked the goats to say, yes can use mares one on a goat (phew), but he will email fully on Monday, so will update re any additional items to buy. Great support for a weekend.
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LOL forgot about time difference, he's responded already:
To answer your questions more thoroughly, Yes you can use the horse milker on goats. The items you will want to add to it will be the Silicone Inserts and the Quart Bottles. You can find them on our website at [/size]www.udderlyez.com (http://www.udderlyez.com/)[/color][/size] under accessories. In the meantime, go ahead and use it. You will just have to dump it more with the little bottles. Be careful not to get milk down in the pump via the small hole that draws the suction out. Try and keep the milk stream to the other side. If you do get milk down that hole, follow the cleaning instructions for the pump found it your instructions.[/color]
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Good - glad you got it working well and a reply about the bits needed to make it a goat milker :thumbsup: