The Accidental Smallholder Forum
Livestock => Sheep => Topic started by: Small Farmer on June 06, 2012, 01:48:28 pm
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Most onlookers thought they were goats. I'm guessing they're Zwartbles?
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I have seen it all now lol!!!
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They are - how interesting.
Not unheard of for goat wethers to pull carts but never seen sheep doing it before ;D
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I always thought zwartbles were too big for their own good :innocent:
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Yes fantastic would love to see this in the flesh, I wonder if they are fully trained or on a lead rein I feel a google coming on. Baa boys on u tube have a look very strange but fascinating
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Saw this in a demonstration at the end of the Herts County show on sunday. All I gleaned was that it was part of a horse rescue charity which had driven down from Scotland. The sheep were called This and That
The sheep did indeed pull the cart with a driver, albeit a little reluctantly. She was also jumping a pony cart, something else I've never seen.
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She was also jumping a pony cart
Weird, sounds both uncomfortable to the pony and pointless :-\
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Definitely weird. OH has found the programme now
Chariots of Fire Display Team (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3beoF3hHxQE#)
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Well, Fleecewife, as we zwartbles keepers know they are in fact small ponies. Just sheared they resemble black and white quarter-horses. Still taste all right though !!
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Very disturbed by this film, Brave Brave pony's and stupid people ! Why Why Why. In my eyes this constitutes animal cruelty
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LOL... and I was pleased with my sheep just walking on a dog collar and lead... ! Clever Zwartbles
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Very disturbed by this film, Brave Brave pony's and stupid people ! Why Why Why. In my eyes this constitutes animal cruelty
its only what royal horse artillery have done for yonkers.
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Well I suppose once upon a time the horses of the Royal Artillery did have to cope with noise, smoke and fire in battle.
Whether or not it should be used as entertainment is a different matter I think.
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i see your point, but couldnt you easily say the same about horse riding or jumping tho?
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At one time bull terriers would have to be brave to face a bull. At one time a strong dog would have to be brave to battle with a bear. Pit bull terriers have to be brave to battle. Bull have to be brave for bullfighting I could go on. Fire jumping pony's yes that's ok and is very useful for somethink, O its for the entertainment of people. CRUELTY nothing less
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I see your point, but couldnt you easily say the same about horse riding or jumping tho?
I've assumed that the ponies/horses are quite frightened of fire and therefore rather a lot of force has gone into making them do what they do - and that they probably remain frightened?
I don't know enough about how horses seem to feel about riding and jumping. Certainly they seem wary at first - do they get to like it or not mind it? I don't know?
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Ach, ponies/horses are quite frightened of lots of things - their own shadow, a paper bag, a polythene bag, a stick, a wheelbarrow, tractor, a person in a fluorescent jacket, silage wrap, a balloon - the list is quite literally endless. They learn through repetition that these things don't hurt them and become calm when passing them. I would imagine that no coercion but repetitive pressure-and-release type techniques have been used to acclimatise the ponies to the flames, which don't hurt them. No way would they go through them if they thought they would hurt them.
Generally, horses that have been trained using coercion are pretty bad-tempered and unpredictable. Not ones I would expect anyone to trust pulling a cart at speed over jumps between flaming poles.
Or perhaps I am all rather rosy-bespectacled about it all...
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well i dont think its at all cruel.
more an excellent example of how a true bond of trust can be built between a horse and rider. well done them. good to see old skills being kept alive. :horse:
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true bond of trust can be built between a horse and rider
That's generally how I see horse riding etc. so am happy to believe the horses trust their people enough to overcome their fear of whatever.
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I think this thread has gorn a bit off topic from sheep transport.... ;D