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Livestock => Pigs => Topic started by: NicAlford1234 on May 22, 2012, 11:34:47 pm

Title: Large Black Gilt
Post by: NicAlford1234 on May 22, 2012, 11:34:47 pm
Hi,
I'm looking for a Large black gilt, preferably available to buy in lat summer nearish Exeter. Am happy to buy two, but if available in late summer, I have some OSB's at similar ages.
Anyone got any weaners lying around which are up for grabs?

Also; what will an OSB boar and Large black sow produce? What would they look like?

Cheers
Title: Re: Large Black Gilt
Post by: HappyHippy on May 23, 2012, 09:10:57 am
I'll have some ready to go September time (and should have some of the rarer Diana and Warbler lines) but I'm all the way up in central Scotland.......... if you don't find any closer to you, we'd be happy to meet you halfway  ;)
It's also worth having a look on the Large Black website and email Janice (seretary) if you're still struggling to find any - she knows where everybody is and who has what available  :thumbsup:
Haven't crossed OSB and Large Black, but I'd imagine the piglets might be a bit spotty - the pork will be great though  :yum:
HTH
Karen x
Title: Re: Large Black Gilt
Post by: NicAlford1234 on May 23, 2012, 10:16:09 am
Thanks, will keep you posted!

That's what I was thinking... And the quality of meat should be really good!!
Title: Re: Large Black Gilt
Post by: robert waddell on May 23, 2012, 12:10:24 pm
going by your other posts is it wise to be expanding but that is your choice
crossing can be such fun just waiting for that piglet scrunched out to see the colouring osb boar with a large black gilt will in all probability produce some if not all piglets being black crossing the other way could see a bigger variation   saddelback or Hampshire boar covering a tamworth sow will produce black or black and white piglets crossed the other way you have a tendency to get ginger saddelbacks or Hampshire's :farmer:
Title: Re: Large Black Gilt
Post by: NicAlford1234 on May 23, 2012, 12:25:08 pm
Thanks Robert. I understand that I would get better colourings the other way, but keeping an OSB and Large Black boar at the same time could be too difficult, even though by OSB boar is very docile.
Title: Re: Large Black Gilt
Post by: robert waddell on May 23, 2012, 12:34:35 pm
i am not encouraging you get more boars but we have 1 tamworth and 4 Hampshire boars  3 of them working but it is down to management :farmer:
Title: Re: Large Black Gilt
Post by: NicAlford1234 on May 23, 2012, 12:36:16 pm
Is it not difficult to keep them apart though? I know with bulls that they fight, is it the same with boars?
Title: Re: Large Black Gilt
Post by: robert waddell on May 23, 2012, 01:00:23 pm
to the death :farmer:
Title: Re: Large Black Gilt
Post by: NicAlford1234 on May 23, 2012, 01:07:40 pm
Haha ok! Won't be doing that in a hurry then, just incase!
Title: Re: Large Black Gilt
Post by: robert waddell on May 23, 2012, 01:16:26 pm
and will take you with them   steel and solid walls are the only safe way to separate
yes docile on its own if it gets the scent of another boar  change completly :farmer:
Title: Re: Large Black Gilt
Post by: arl on May 23, 2012, 01:39:46 pm
I sometimes think the osb gene may not be as strong as some of the other pig genes because i have a saddleback sow wich i got by default and crossed her with my osb boar and twice you would swear that they were pure saddleback not a brown hair in sight.
Arl
Title: Re: Large Black Gilt
Post by: NicAlford1234 on May 23, 2012, 01:49:17 pm
Ok thanks! That's worth knowing :)
Title: Re: Large Black Gilt
Post by: robert waddell on May 23, 2012, 02:08:52 pm
arl that is what i was saying they take of the sow the predominance of markings  lop crossed with Hampshire produces a predominately white pig with just a smattering of black but they are referred  to as blue/greys :farmer:
Title: Re: Large Black Gilt
Post by: HappyHippy on May 23, 2012, 02:15:16 pm
I sometimes think the osb gene may not be as strong as some of the other pig genes because i have a saddleback sow wich i got by default and crossed her with my osb boar and twice you would swear that they were pure saddleback not a brown hair in sight.
Arl
Sally in t'north has an OSB sow, crossed with saddleback boar - gave saddleback looking piglets too.
Kinda blows the sow predominance theory out the window  :-\  Maybe the Saddleback is just a more predominant gene than the OSB ? Anyone want to research it  :D
Title: Re: Large Black Gilt
Post by: NicAlford1234 on May 23, 2012, 03:16:03 pm
If that is the case, then what would happen with a OSB boar and saddle-back sow? Same again  I assume...
Title: Re: Large Black Gilt
Post by: robert waddell on May 23, 2012, 03:23:14 pm
when you do interbreed crossing nothing is set in stone  it is all just speculation until the piglets arrive
all we can go by is what has been produced by our own crossings
when Karen's osb farrowed to the kunnie the piglets came out like osbs and grew like osbs but they had pirries again if the kunnies boar has piries they pass that on to the next generation :farmer:
Title: Re: Large Black Gilt
Post by: HappyHippy on May 23, 2012, 04:25:56 pm
Ah, but........ my Kunekune boar is ginger with black spots  ;)