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Livestock => Pigs => Topic started by: Dutchjim on April 11, 2012, 09:31:51 pm

Title: B&B&Boar
Post by: Dutchjim on April 11, 2012, 09:31:51 pm
I have taken my gilt to a  neighbours boar today. Out door set up. He is a lop and mine is a welsh.
Did not fancy AI.  She should come on heat in the next few days and I like her to stay to see if she returns.
What would be a fair price to pay for that? It has been left vague. I don't like vague but still.
Title: Re: B&B&Boar
Post by: robert waddell on April 11, 2012, 09:38:31 pm
£40 or thereabout for his services and what your pig eats in food depends on what they are paying for food
remember you don't have to feed her :farmer:
Title: Re: B&B&Boar
Post by: Fowgill Farm on April 15, 2012, 09:03:52 pm
we charge £70 for service and a 3wks stay if that helps.
Mandy :pig:
Title: Re: B&B&Boar
Post by: hughesy on April 15, 2012, 10:00:47 pm
A good time to sort out the price would have been before you took her there. You're pretty much lumbered with whatever the boar owner decides to charge you now.
Title: Re: B&B&Boar
Post by: Polished Arrow on April 16, 2012, 12:09:14 am
We were charged £25 per lady when Raj (pedigree Saddleback) came to visit, and we fed him (well) while he was with us, of course.  We have two gilts, so it was £50.
Title: Re: B&B&Boar
Post by: Dutchjim on April 16, 2012, 09:29:31 pm
Thanks for advise. They are friendly neighbours and just wanted a "drink".
I never know what that means. I have had very expensive drinks in my time.
I hate the term. I just wish people would say what they want or just help themselves to a
glass of water!

Title: Re: B&B&Boar
Post by: robert waddell on April 16, 2012, 09:56:41 pm
that could be a cheap £8 bottle of whisky or a rare £800 single malt and anything in betwean     i don't like these vague    but then again water is scarce in England :farmer:
Title: Re: B&B&Boar
Post by: Bobforrangerpigs on April 16, 2012, 11:14:34 pm
Berkswell Yorshireman, or Bonkers as he is known. My 3 year old Pedigree Tamworth goes out for £100 + the pick of the litter. He goes for 4-6 weeks to cover 2 cycles of the Sow.
Think about it in terms of costs, time & fuel.
Diesel for delivery of the boar. Collection afterwards. When the time comes, further  time & fuel costs to collect your weaner.
My reasoning is that it’s best for the male to travel, and you to deliver. Would you let someone you don't really know, go off with your prize porker? For all you know he could end up on some ones plate! Lastly get the money on delivery.
As you can see from the above not a great deal of profit, but no loses either.
Title: Re: B&B&Boar
Post by: Berkshire Boy on April 17, 2012, 07:39:47 am
Bet he doesn't go out very often. :o
Title: Re: B&B&Boar
Post by: HappyHippy on April 17, 2012, 08:36:11 am
Bet he doesn't go out very often. :o
Never underestimate what people will pay BB, especially if Bonkers is a great example of the breed (prize winner) or has had fantastic proven litters in the past - a little extra over the cost of a whole litter could well be worth it when it comes time to sell the weaners  ;)
Title: Re: B&B&Boar
Post by: robert waddell on April 17, 2012, 09:07:20 am
yes you never know what some folk will pay      berkswell is one of the top herds in tamworths     but if they are delivering and collecting him  that can be factored in at from 40p per mile to £1 20  per mile  :farmer:
Title: Re: B&B&Boar
Post by: Berkshire Boy on April 17, 2012, 10:02:55 am
All very true but a meat pig is a meat pig. Just because a boar or sow is show quality doesn't mean their ofspring will be aswell. A breeder and shower that I know recons he is more likely to get show quality weaners from his breeding stock rather than his show stock.
Title: Re: B&B&Boar
Post by: princesspiggy on April 17, 2012, 12:18:27 pm
A breeder and shower that I know recons he is more likely to get show quality weaners from his breeding stock rather than his show stock.

that is the same with many species, including rabbits and ponies
2 beauties dont always breed the best winners. but surely if u are breeding pedigree, u are at least aiming for the breed standard?
a consistantly good bloodline would be reliable in producing a higher quality stock.
Title: Re: B&B&Boar
Post by: HappyHippy on April 17, 2012, 01:37:44 pm
a consistantly good bloodline would be reliable in producing a higher quality stock.
That's my thinking on it too  :thumbsup:
My 'stock' and my 'show pigs' are the same pigs (except maybe 'Grumpy' the Large Black sow, for obvious reasons  ::)) they just get more food, pampering and baths in the summer  ;) ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: B&B&Boar
Post by: Berkshire Boy on April 17, 2012, 04:49:13 pm
A show pig is not necessarily a good pig. It conforms to the breed standards right number of teats and right markings etc but doesn't mean that it produces good piglets or a good carcass. The trouble with showing anything is that it is a personal opinion of the judge and your winning pig on Saturday might not get a second look on sunday under a different judge. You've only got to look at the horses that get shown fat great things not suitable for the job but the judges like them.
Title: Re: B&B&Boar
Post by: princesspiggy on April 17, 2012, 11:32:38 pm
You've only got to look at the horses that get shown fat great things not suitable for the job but the judges like them.

is a pig not judged in the ring on its (albeit still walking) carcuss? i thought it was. ::) :)
Title: Re: B&B&Boar
Post by: Fowgill Farm on April 18, 2012, 09:28:50 am

is a pig not judged in the ring on its (albeit still walking) carcuss? i thought it was. ::) :)

Only in porker & baconer classes the rest of the time they're looking for breed standard and conformity.
Mandy  :pig: