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Livestock => Sheep => Topic started by: rikkib on April 04, 2012, 08:33:31 pm

Title: foxes
Post by: rikkib on April 04, 2012, 08:33:31 pm
  :sheep: :sheep:could any body please help i have 4 soay ewes we recently have had a problem with a rogue fox taking hens cocks during the day from locals myself have lost nun the local keeper has been called to resolve the problem and is now making a meal of it saying that the soays are at risk???? IM not so sure the locals have even started to exagerate the skills cunning and killing ability of the fox foxy has even got the blame for the recent weather and the missing tractor   somebody out there please respond so i and my neighbours can sleep at night  DO THEY TAKE ADULT SHEEP IN GREAT CONDITION
Title: Re: foxes
Post by: Gunnermark on April 04, 2012, 08:40:26 pm
They'd have to be a pretty big fox to take down a healthy ewe!!
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Post by: rikkib on April 04, 2012, 08:44:22 pm
LEGEND AND MY NEIGHBOURS SAY HE IS AS BIG AS A ALSATIAN DOG BET YOUVE HEARD THAT BEFORE
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Post by: Anke on April 04, 2012, 08:55:35 pm
They would long be extinct if they were able to take ewes... different with dogs running wild though...
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Post by: in the hills on April 04, 2012, 09:00:57 pm
Ermmm ..... well they are crafty Im sure and I have only kept sheep for a couple of years but wouldnt feel worried about ADULT soay. We have Soay and I am pretty certain that Mr Fox wouldnt get them. I have wondered about the lambs  ...... mine are due soon but sure the adults would be okay and I am hoping that if Mr Fox comes calling the ewes will see him off.

They chase my cat out of their field and the ram even chased my poor dog all around the paddock. Think your adults are quite safe. Just remembered that I did read in The Soay Society book that someone suspected that their soay had killed a fox. Oh dear, the gamekeeper could be out of a job!  ;)
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Post by: rikkib on April 04, 2012, 09:25:55 pm
yes dogs running free why is it people sea grass and think it is their right tu let theirdogs run wild last summer aneighbour walking her labrador canny beAST iwaslead to beleive should of known better chased two young goats of mine rond a field of mine only escaping when they leapt a fence   this wasnt a problem according to her he the dog was only playing and would not hurt them   perhaps if i had chased her around the field till she jumped the fence due to exhaustion i would be writing this message from prisonnow
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Post by: Bangbang on April 04, 2012, 09:27:11 pm
Your foxes can drive tractors?
Cool !  :thumbsup:
Ours steal wheelie bins  ;D
Title: Re: foxes
Post by: rikkib on April 04, 2012, 09:30:45 pm
will be taking their tests next month hopefully pass have you seen the price of lessons these days
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Post by: Bangbang on April 04, 2012, 09:36:02 pm
I've never heard of a fox taking a full grown sheep.
Though I dare say they might chew on one that has died naturally
which could give the impression that it was killed by one.
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Post by: LOCHBYRE on April 05, 2012, 06:37:52 am
I would say no  :)
They of course will take lambs but not fully grown, alive sheep  :D
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Post by: shrekfeet on April 05, 2012, 02:43:59 pm
rikkib I think you need to take your computer back to the shop and ask them to give you one that has commas and full stops. Made me out of breathe reading your message!
;-)

 :wave:
Title: Re: foxes
Post by: daddymatty82 on April 05, 2012, 03:16:52 pm
you not heard foxes  are bigger now? seen the size of the recent shot ones? i think a fox would take a healthy sheep but it would be an opportunity attack kind of if a lonely sheep lead down on its own asleep but others around you should be fine as there warn each other
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Post by: Muttley94 on April 05, 2012, 06:03:24 pm
We have a fox problem too but I haven't worried about my ewes. They chase the neighbor's cat and black lab. They even chased my 12 year old brother out of their field! I am worried about the lambs who are due around now so I built the fence higher and repaired any holes, but how high can a fox jump? And I know this sounds stupid but could they climb wire mesh? I was told they can climb but that may have been a joke  :)
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Post by: Moleskins on April 05, 2012, 06:18:47 pm
My understanding is that foxes climb wire fencing. I may be wrong but I heard that if the wire is loose it wobbles about as they climb and they don't like that. Fox high fencing round a field is a bit of an extreme measure and the fox will go somewhere else and be a problem far better all round if you spend the fencing money on a gun .........
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Post by: Muttley94 on April 05, 2012, 07:41:27 pm
Thanks moleskins, think I will just get my game-keeper friend over to help with my extremely cocky fox, sooner rather than later! I went to check on the ewes just now and he is sitting right next to the fence in broad daylight and didn't even flinch when I shouted at him. Luckily my dog escaped from the house again and barked at him, causing him only to run a few yards away and sit watching us. When did foxes become so brave?!
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Post by: daddymatty82 on April 05, 2012, 07:54:30 pm
when the hunting was banned
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Post by: PetiteGalette on April 05, 2012, 09:09:56 pm
No daddymatty82!
Here in France between October and February the chasse are out every Thursday and Sunday (and the occasional Saturday for a fox beat) and, guess what? We still have foxes visit our field - I have still seen them hunting mice in our field when I have been working in the veggie plot. MoH has a photo of me hoeing in the potager and a large male fox sat watching me a few yards away.
We have a two-metre high sheep fence around our whole property but keep our sheep, turkeys and chickens behind chicken electric fencing. The rejected lambs are in the corner of the field behind Heras panels  for safety.
Title: Re: foxes
Post by: rikkib on April 05, 2012, 09:48:59 pm
firstly may i apologise for my computer skills to old in the tooth to leatn many years ago i was involved in pest control as a proffesion my knowledge tells me that a fox will scramble over 6 foot fence panelswll fit in holes their heads will fit into and are as agile as a cat and just as cunning one year we had abig problem with fox kills or so we thought the estate i worked on was very remote in the borders of scotland hill country   many lambs of various ages were taken one nights lamping identified the culprits aborder terrier and awell trained gun dog labrador   both belonging to the owners of the estate farm   please look further than the fox before blaming him tthey do leave classic signs when they have made akill or a botched attempt
Title: Re: foxes
Post by: in the hills on April 05, 2012, 10:10:24 pm
Dont worry about your computer skills rikkib. We can understand you and that is all that matters.

Our first Soay lamb was born today and one of the first things my daughter said was that the fox could take it because it was so small. We have locked mum and lamb in the field shelter just for one night. Hope they are safe in there.