The Accidental Smallholder Forum
Livestock => Pigs => Topic started by: Zara on April 03, 2012, 07:18:35 pm
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Hi everyone
My weaners are going on Thursday. The buyers are coming to collect them...Who needs to prepare the AML online? I think it is the buyer as they will be collecting them. But I would like to be sure!
As always
Thanks
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no it is you the seller :farmer:
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I obviously assumed wrong. I am glad I checked and many thanks for your reply!
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Try and make sure they have registered on the AML system as i had a problem on sunday, my buyers hadn't registered on the system.
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hi robert waddell can you help please. i am buying 2 gos weaners in may is it correct that i only need to give seller my holding number or do i need a stock/pig number,i am going to fatten them up for pork.
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in Scotland you need to give all relevant information including your herd number :farmer:
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thanks robert does same thing apply in wales
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Yes, you still need to give your herd number.
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For England & Wales (and probably Scotland as well)
1. Agree that buyers should register in the system first, whilst technically the seller can register them , this has created issues in tying up previosuly, and I don't trust the database to match it all up.
2. The buyer needs to give the seller two bits of info for them to find them in the system. However the system doesn't seem to always find them, so we are asking for address, postcode, holding no, herd no. from our customers.
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Anyone tried to move on a temporary mark. I've looked for somewhere to enter "blue spot between shoulders" or similar, but system keeps asking for slap mark no. ???
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thanks robert does same thing apply in wales
We live in Wales and bought two weaners on Sunday from Wales. .
We were registered on the system but did it ages ago and hadn't quite finished all the details.... so I did that as soon as I got home.
Anyway - the seller initiated the eAML and got a movement reference which is really KEY.
Then, once the piggies had moved off her premises and I had completed my registration, she completed her end and it came through to us and I just ticked the boxes to say when we received them, how many, how many DOA etc.
Pressed button. No probs. Helpline were really helpful but they were a bit snowed under at the beginning of the week.
All went through fine
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Anyone tried to move on a temporary mark. I've looked for somewhere to enter "blue spot between shoulders" or similar, but system keeps asking for slap mark no.
The slapmark is just the herd number. So - on the eAML form the "Identification mark" and the "slap mark" fields are our supplier's herd number even though the weaners haven't been marked with that mark..... they've just got dots sprayed on their bums.
When we move them to slaughter we will move them under our slap mark
I cna only speak from my experience though.....
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Rockstar,
You were asking about pig herd number. I spoke to Animal Health in Carmarthen on the same subject yesterday.
You need a pig herd number before you get your pigs but if you haven't already got a herd number they won't give you a number until 1-2 weeks before your piggies are due.
Apparently for a sheep flock number you can't register these until the sheep are on your land.
Wouldn't it be easier if they used the same rules?.
If you want to phone AH to discuss their number is 01267 245400
The person I spoke to was Hefina Evans.
Hope this helps
Sally
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Anyone tried to move on a temporary mark. I've looked for somewhere to enter "blue spot between shoulders" or similar, but system keeps asking for slap mark no. ???
Just type it in
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eAML are helpful - 0844 335 8400
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Anyone tried to move on a temporary mark. I've looked for somewhere to enter "blue spot between shoulders" or similar, but system keeps asking for slap mark no. ???
Just type it in
I tried that but it wouldn't let me. I'll have another go, as I have some weaners due to leave soon.
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bionic>thanks for the help :thumbsup:i phoned animal health and were very helpfull and are getting the number sorted ,thanks again sally from a snowy powys nr builth wells.
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Anyone tried to move on a temporary mark. I've looked for somewhere to enter "blue spot between shoulders" or similar, but system keeps asking for slap mark no. ???
Just type it in
I tried that but it wouldn't let me. I'll have another go, as I have some weaners due to leave soon.
This is one of the many queries that I currently have waiting a response from BPEX. For the moment if you click the temporary mark, and then in the box that says "other reference" type in "blue spot on shoulder" or whatever, this appears on the top of the form, and this will make you legal. When BPEX have responded hopefully there will be a box, and it will appera on the correct part of the form.
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Excellent, thank you Oaklands. :thumbsup: I did think I may have to resort to handwriting it on the haulers sheet. ::)
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I've started e-mailing the buyers before they come asking for their info and asking if they're registered on the eaml www to make sure they've definitely done it before they arrive.
One issue we've had this last week is someone who was given two different CPH numbers as the first was linked to the incorrect grid refs. They got a second set on the 15th March, but the system wouldn't recognise this set when we tried to fill in the form! We called the team and it turned out we had to use the original number - everyone was really rather confused by it all!
I'm sure it'll get better!
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We have two entries on the database, one for BPA and one from the BPEX site. Seems some moves go to one, and some to the other - have not worked out why Both are however the same holding and herdmark. Very confusing.
Smarshall, like you we have now developed an email to send to potential customers so that we can be happy that they have registered before they come. Not always possible with people wanting to view weaners, but helps in some cases.