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Livestock => Poultry & Waterfowl => Topic started by: valantinas on March 26, 2012, 10:15:54 am
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Hi
Might sound like a daft question but after reading Practical Poultry it says tha a cockerel is a male bird of less than 12 months. If this is the case, I keep my hens on my allotment where the couuncil says you cant keep'cockerels', so would I be able to get a male bird of more than 12 months old to keep there? I doubt it but might try it on a technicallity!
Pete
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all these magazines are written by enthusiasts then edited by morons with no experience in that particular field i would not rely on these articles in a court of law they will roll out somebody that is an expert witness that cobbled there credentials together :farmer:
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I call them all cockerels if they are lucky ....... sometimes not so polite! Do they change to cocks at 12 months ? Probably read the same magazine.
You could try!!!!
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Ever since I was little I was taught it was a cockerel til it's first birthday then a cock after.
But most places use cockerel because pooter filters prevent you typing something along the lines of 'I have a large cock and don't know what to do with him'. ;D ;D
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Yep, a cockerel is young male and thereafter officially he's a cock, but since that gives far too many opportunities for deliberate or unintentional rude double meaning, most people refer to male birds as cockerels throughout their lives. But it should be cockerel and pullet, cock and hen.
Your allotment of course doesn't want male birds full stop - cos of the crowing I expect.
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And also they have a tendency to attack people.
Although I am presuming he would be in an enclosure on your allotment Valentinas - some members of the public do seem to feel very threatened by any living thing within a 100 yard radius regardless of whether they are under control or not.......
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If you don't want to be misunderstood, you might call him a rooster :D ;D
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all these magazines are written by enthusiasts then edited by morons with no experience in that particular field
<sigh> Here we go again Robert. This is a ridiculous statement that adds nothing to this question and can only lead to negative reaction.
If you actually believe it to be true then you've confirmed at least one moron on this thread, if you don't believe it then why say it at all? ::)
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take practical pigs as a prime example one edition had a photo of a pig eating an ice cream this caused an outrage at the double standards that are implemented
it was noted in the next edition of the misleading information and i cant find my copy to quote directly if the editor had any prior knowledge of the current rules on pig keeping that photo would not have been printed even for the cuttsie factor
even books have big mistakes printed :farmer:
humblest apologies for having the ability to remember small pieces of information that are disregarded by the majority
will i make my way to the corner in anticipation of another ban coming on :( :( :( :farmer:
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I must side with Robert on this one the quality of information in some specialist magazines and books is disgraceful and that is down to the editing as a lot of the content comes from enthusiasts and experts and then thrown in the air and put back together any old way.
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I'm not questioning whether some specialist magazines sometimes get things wrong, or spend too little time on editing and too much on chasing advertising.
What you said Robert was that all these magazines are edited by morons. That's a singularly nonsensical and unhelpful generalisation.
This is off-topic. Please PM me or email me if you want me to explain further the difference between 'all' and 'some'. :thumbsup:
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I usually stay out of these arguments BUT this time I am going to reply, YES Robert is right in what he has printed and too much crap goes into books, leaflets, flyer's etc without proper knowledge of specific items. How many people have read books and class them as the holly bible of poultry, pigs etc, this is when mistakes are made by the reader and it always ends up being someone Else's fault, oh the book said i just done as the book says, always better leaving the blame at someone else's door
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Following swiftly on (to prevent the onset of World War 3 and to talk cock(eral)), can anyone tell me the reason why cockerals crow. Is it to attract the females, or to ward off other cockerals from his "ladies", or is it because he is happy. Our Jethro has been giving it large lately, this morning he was non-stop for ages. Im just so glad we are in the countryside, where it is considered a natural noise, or we would be in trouble with the neighbours.
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hit a nerve Dan not a editor of a specialist magazine are you. ???
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dan pm sent ;) :farmer:
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hit a nerve Dan not a editor of a specialist magazine are you. ???
Not at all! I just don't like sweeping generalisations. It's my legal training, if you mean some then don't say all. ;) :D
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I think cockerels crow to 'stake their territory' and claim their right to the hens in it. Mine have 'crowing wars' - at about 4am at the moment ::) I guess there might be some element of 'look at how big and strong I am (and how noisy :D), pick me' to the ladies but mainly in my yard it seems to be aimed at each other.
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A young male is a Cockerel till he starts crowing.
After that he's dinner. ;)
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If you listen carefully, when mine crow they are often answered by cockerels living in one or other direction along our lane. Dont know what they are saying. Could just be ... I am here ... or the like!!
But then they make that other sound (you know the one I mean) :D that says look out girls ... bird of prey overhead. They are usually right and it is the red kite, buzzard or sparrowhawk but sometimes its a couple of ducks!!!!
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Do they get spring fever like rabbits? I am sure some scientist can explain it all in terms of longer daylight hours and warmer temperatures but to most normal people its just Spring. As it sets off most things, cant see why cocks would be any different, time to give it large I would presume.
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I was out feeding our animals at first light not long ago and noticed every time one of our cocks crowed an owl replied in the distance. It went on for quite a while Haven't heard it since though. (don't shout at me Dan but got to agree with Robert regarding practical pigs magazine).
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Thats all quiet amusing! I'd love to boast about my big Cock but turns out he's only a cockeral ;D One day!!!
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Thats all quiet amusing! I'd love to boast about my big Cock but turns out he's only a cockeral ;D One day!!!
The Wyandotte rooster we had years ago was called 'Big Cock' and I had to take himto the vets for summat. The vet came out and called for us, but our vet calls the animal's name not the owner. I have never seen anyone go so red so quickly after she realised she had shouted across the waiting room 'Can I have Big Cock now please?'.
I nearly died laughing ;D