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Livestock => Sheep => Topic started by: zwartbles on March 07, 2012, 11:55:45 am

Title: Good news and Bad
Post by: zwartbles on March 07, 2012, 11:55:45 am
Good news and bad.
Have been lucky up until now with some very nice lambs.
Yesterday one of our best ewes went into labour and then stopped pushing with no lamb visible. Got the vet out who then struggled for an hour with a giant dead lamb bent double with feet facing forward. Impossible to turn around until two legs broke off. It the took two of us to pull the rest out.
Poor ewe will quite likely die of peritonitis as she has a tear to the uterus. Antibiotics of course but they can only do so much.
Four still to go so fingers crossed !
Title: Re: Good news and Bad
Post by: smudger on March 07, 2012, 12:03:46 pm
  :'( I'd give a hug but can't find the smiley thing.
Title: Re: Good news and Bad
Post by: OhLaLa on March 07, 2012, 12:11:03 pm
Sorry read your news. Bless her.

Hope all goes well with the four.



Title: Re: Good news and Bad
Post by: Haylo-peapod on March 07, 2012, 12:19:34 pm
So sorry to hear about your ewe, I hope she manages to pull through.
Why oh why is it always our best or favourite ewes that come a cropper...
Hugs from me too. I hope the rest of lambing goes smoothly. x
Title: Re: Good news and Bad
Post by: Remy on March 07, 2012, 12:35:51 pm
Sounds awful, so sorry  :(.  Hope the ewe manages to repair herself, poor thing  :-\

Best of luck with the rest ..
Title: Re: Good news and Bad
Post by: Rosemary on March 07, 2012, 01:09:37 pm
 :( :bouquet: Hope the ewe is OK - where there's life etc etc.
Title: Re: Good news and Bad
Post by: Tilly on March 07, 2012, 01:50:44 pm

Hi Zwartbles,
I hope your ewe will  recover :hshoe: :sheep: , heartbreaking when that sort of thing happens :bouquet:

I like the good news though  :thumbsup:  your little -uns look so sweet  :love:

Tilly :wave:
Title: Re: Good news and Bad
Post by: feldar on March 07, 2012, 02:10:09 pm
So sorry this is a horrible thing to deal with :bouquet: good luck
Title: Re: Good news and Bad
Post by: Fronhaul on March 08, 2012, 10:52:45 am
The only solution is to go and visit the lambs - especially at stomping time which is around 5.30 -6.00 pm here at the moment.  Thinking of you.
Title: Re: Good news and Bad
Post by: Anke on March 08, 2012, 10:58:34 am
If you already had the vet out - would a C-section not have been easier on the ewe? Even if she then would be a non-breeder, her cast value should have made up for it. If she dies on your holding you will have nothing... except the vet's bill.
Title: Re: Good news and Bad
Post by: SallyintNorth on March 08, 2012, 12:21:10 pm
zwartbles, so sorry to hear about your ewe  :bouquet: 

If you already had the vet out - would a C-section not have been easier on the ewe? Even if she then would be a non-breeder, her cast value should have made up for it. If she dies on your holding you will have nothing... except the vet's bill.
I wondered the same, then thought our vets are usually very reticent to to a c-section when it's dead lambs, saying that you usually can't keep the wound clean and will end up with a very sick ewe who will die in any case, so I don't know if that's what they thought here.  But yes, if the uterus was going to tear you would have thought a c-section would perhaps have been the best of the available options.

Title: Re: Good news and Bad
Post by: kanisha on March 08, 2012, 05:33:54 pm
How is the ewe today Zwartbles?

I have everything crosed for you and her its so very distressing when things like this happen ((hug))

Title: Re: Good news and Bad
Post by: Bramblecot on March 08, 2012, 05:37:52 pm
[I have everything crosed for you and her its so very distressing when things like this happen ((hug))
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And from me.  Rotten luck. :(
Title: Re: Good news and Bad
Post by: wellies on March 08, 2012, 06:26:17 pm
will be keeping my fingers crossed for your ewe, so sorry to hear about the lamb
Title: Re: Good news and Bad
Post by: zwartbles on March 08, 2012, 07:01:21 pm
Thank you all for your good wishes. The ewe is up and walking and grazing, which is good. The outcome won't be clear for a few days when we will find out if any infection has occured.
A section wasn't a feasible option in a dark muddy field shelter on a ewe who had been fighting for three hours and was very weak. The primary concern was trying to get the lamb out before the ewe died of shock or exhaustion, the tear not being inevitable, just a side effect of fused limbs etc.
In a perfect world ,with hindsight a lot of our decisions might be different!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Good news and Bad
Post by: jaykay on March 08, 2012, 07:16:24 pm
Good to hear she's up and grazing - fingers crossed  :-*
Title: Re: Good news and Bad
Post by: squeasy on March 08, 2012, 07:17:02 pm
Fingers crossed - hope she is ok
Title: Re: Good news and Bad
Post by: zwartbles on March 09, 2012, 07:47:58 am
Better news. 4.30 this morning a pair of perfect twins. Very reassuring to find that because we have had one disaster it doesn't mean that they are all affected.
Sick ewe still up and eating so still hope there. Thank you all for your good wishes and an apology for a terse reply yesterday. :)
Title: Re: Good news and Bad
Post by: jaykay on March 09, 2012, 09:02:42 am
I don't think you ever need to apologise for short replies - we understand  :-*

Good news on the twins  ;D and sending 'get well' thoughts to your sick ewe  :)
Title: Re: Good news and Bad
Post by: Rosemary on March 09, 2012, 10:24:26 am
So glad she's hanging in there. Fingers crossed that she does recover.
Title: Re: Good news and Bad
Post by: Tilly on March 09, 2012, 10:45:06 am

Lambing is aways a roller coaster of emotions  :'( / :) - but with the added worry of this dam virus, we are all a little more edgy than normal :-\
- lovely news that new set of twins are healthy  :sheep: :sheep:
Tilly  :wave:
Title: Re: Good news and Bad
Post by: Blinkers on March 09, 2012, 11:08:20 am
Awwww, so sorry to hear of the problems, but all sounds like a promising outcome (fingers crossed).  Wonderful pics  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Good news and Bad
Post by: zwartbles on March 09, 2012, 11:23:06 pm
Another 5Kg single tonight 11pm. Only 2 to go !
Sick ewe still eating  :)
Title: Re: Good news and Bad
Post by: bazzais on March 10, 2012, 09:06:27 am
Great news, lambkins!!   - and please dont appoligise - well not to me, its a rollorcoaster ride at lambing time.

Glad to hear that the ewe is still up and walking too as well as your new edition :0)
Title: Re: Good news and Bad
Post by: zwartbles on April 09, 2012, 11:32:40 am
All done at last !! The final ewe presented us with triplets, two fine, one not too good. We decided to try and keep it going and have succeeded! We now have three very smart, very small girls. Mother has three teats ............ but only one works !! So we are now bottle feeding two.
The poorly ewe has survived well and is full of life. Although not suitable for breeding next year she has a future with us. We originally bought here in a batch for training our collies on so she still can fulfill her role !! ;D
Good luck to everyone still lambing and here's to next year.
Title: Re: Good news and Bad
Post by: MrsJ on April 09, 2012, 11:49:58 am
Lovely pics!  We had a ewe with only one working teat and she managed to raise twins with no help from us.  We offered bottles to both lambs to top up but they didnt want to know and both grew into bonny lambs.
Title: Re: Good news and Bad
Post by: in the hills on April 09, 2012, 03:18:00 pm
So glad that your ewe is recovering and will be able to stay with you and still be useful.

The lambs are cuties.  :)
Title: Re: Good news and Bad
Post by: kanisha on April 09, 2012, 04:10:32 pm
good news and lovely pics! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Good news and Bad
Post by: feldar on April 10, 2012, 08:41:21 pm
You've got  a nice ewe there, do you show? well done with the lambing.
Title: Re: Good news and Bad
Post by: Brijjy on April 11, 2012, 11:51:42 am
Very nice pics. I do like Zwartbles and they would be my second choice as a breed to keep. They do look so smart. Fingers crossed that the poorly ewe keeps on getting better.
Title: Re: Good news and Bad
Post by: zwartbles on April 11, 2012, 07:18:26 pm
Thanks, Feldar, she is a lovely ewe. Super manners as are most of ours. We do show locally but there are only a few flocks locally so they tend to get put in with "other continental breeds".
Last year we had them ignored at one show as they didn't finish as fast as Texels !! Had to point out to the judge that he was supposed to be judging breed standard not as butchers lambs !! Didn't go down too well.
 I think we have registered five to breed standard from this lambing and they will be up for sale. Surplus rams will go in the oven and we keep some ewes for crossbreeding as they produce lovely sweet meat without excess fat.