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Community => Coffee Lounge => Topic started by: The Woodsiders on January 07, 2012, 05:28:26 pm
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Due to that time of life my doctor suggested that I might like to have a flu jab, I mentioned that people I know who have had the jab then go on to get the flu or flu like symptoms, in fact my sister had a bad reaction and now, although in her 70s will not have one and never gets the flu. I was assured this was not going to be a problem and proceeded to let nursie inject me, well would you believe it? I have just spent the last 4 days in bed with the sweats (sorry ladies, men sweat and ladies glow) followed by uncontrolled shivering, headaches and feeling as weak as a kitten, sorry about the rambling, my question is has anyone else suffered similarly after having the so called flu prevention jab? I know where he can stick his needle next time and it aint gonna be in my arm.
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my mum passed out and was sent to the local "cottage" hospital (are they still called that?!)
I don't think she or my dad bothered with it this year!
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Being in a vunerable occupation as a Nurse my wife was offered the flu jab. She was ill afterwards and didn't have it again -despite being pressured at work. Those who did have the jab caught flu anyway -the jab they had didn't include the strain that was going around!!! Funny thing -they were all sick and my wife was fine, so I conclude the jab lowered their resistance.
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the only person i know who gets the flu jab, then gets flu!
men sweat and ladies glow
i thought it was pigs that sweat...lol
hope u feel better soon x :wave:
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i thought it was pigs that sweat...lol
I know that saying too. Though isn't it strange that pigs don't actually have the ability to sweat ??? Hence needing the wallows to cool off ;) Wonder how the saying came about ?
Sorry for digressing ! I've never had any of the jabs, even when we were in the midst of all the swine flu hysteria I stood my ground (much to the utter disbelief of the nurses ::)) and I'm glad I did. But it's not the right decision for everybody and I do think that vulnerable people should consider it - though I don't think being over or under a certain age automatically makes you vulnerable.
Hope you're back to being right as rain soon Markcott :bouquet:
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OH is invited to have the jab every year, as he has acute respiratory problems. He had the jab, just 2 minutes before he was diagnosed with shingles. The result was one very poorly man indeed. I wouldn't mind, but we live in the heart of the french countryside, and he hardly goes out, and only very rarely mixes with other people, so the chances of him getting the flu are remote. The only time he'd get it is if he caught it from me.
I don't think we'll bother next year.
Hope you start to feel better very soon Markcott.
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i thought it was pigs that sweat...lol
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i read a book on wild pig-hunting in australia, and if they were chased for too long, their skin literally peeled off and they died.
my 2 youngest kids had the swine flu jab, mainly cos we kept pigs! uk has the ability to scare people for fun!
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The reason it's a good idea for animal and poultry keepers to have the 'flu jab is to reduce the chances of new strains of cross-species varieties developing - if you don't have flu then it's not going to mutate with an animal variety. It's not because anyone thinks you are going to catch, say, swine 'flu from your pigs. (although they did in one country and killed all the pigs most cruelly)
I have my jab every year with no problems :thumbsup:
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maybe i jabbed the kids to protect the pigs.....lol... ;D ;D
im sure pigs could get swine off humans too.
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Being asthmatic, I have the flu jab every year and have done so since it was available. I've NEVER had any problems afterwards. Obvously I can't answer for anyone else but it works for me and I shall continue to have it.
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I had the flu jab last year and never had any problems. I
Sally
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I used to get the flu jab as any cold I caught went straight to my chest and usualy ended up as severe brochitis or pneumonia, then I was offered a long term pneumonia jab about 4 years ago and was told that I would probably not need another jab for at least 10 years, I had an immediate severe reaction to it and passed out in the surgery, had to lie down in a consulting room for an hour before I was allowed to go home, but since then I rarely get even a cold and my regular severe chest infections are a thing of the past. This winter both of us kept getting a sore throat and high temperature that would last 2-3 days then clear up for a day or two before returning , this continued for 6 weeks before finaly going away, but it was not like the flu thing that everyone else was suffering localy.
I think the quote is " horses sweat, men perspire and women glow "
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Thanks for all your replies, glad its not just me then, Tizaala, I did have a Pneumonia jab at the same time in the other arm, wondering if that may have been a reaction, its so frustrating as I cannot remember the last time I was off sick in 50 years of working, had to get motivated today though as my pigs are going off tomorrow.
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My elderly grandmother who had Cancer and was no longer taking drugs for it (too advanced) was given the Flu jab by a "helpful nurse" and died shortly afterwards.
Not of Cancer - the viruses in the jab killed her. She did not have the immune system to fight it.
I lost the last month of quality time I could have had with her, she was taken by a disease she was not fighting.
Big Pharma has a vested interest in as many people as possible receiving a jab. It's big business. It has nothing to do with prevention.
You could even start to believe that they want to kill the elderly and the frail to save expensive palliative care costs.
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OH is invited to have the jab every year, as he has acute respiratory problems. He had the jab, just 2 minutes before he was diagnosed with shingles. The result was one very poorly man indeed. I wouldn't mind, but we live in the heart of the french countryside, and he hardly goes out, and only very rarely mixes with other people, so the chances of him getting the flu are remote. The only time he'd get it is if he caught it from me.
I don't think we'll bother next year.
Hope you start to feel better very soon Markcott.
One of the probs of going to a central point to get the flu jab is that many there are alreddy carriers of the bug & it's variants.
It also seems to me that when the injection is offered at our doctors the latest flue is already well & truly established .
I've had over 20 years of annual flu vaccinations since having proper influenze and pneumonia which put me out the game for several months .
I've never had the influenza again since but I have had several viral flu like attacks some within hours of going to the surgery but also more before going there these have often ended up giving me some sort of chest infection that has not responded to the usual anti biotics.
I'm led to understand that i will now have built up resistnce to many differing strains of influenze but ought to carry on with them because if a new strain that is exceptionally virulent comes along i might well be on the worse end of it.
Re the posts about virus& the injection ......
I've always thought the vaccination was of a clinically dead virus ( unlike the polio one ) usually in carried in a sterile egg white solution .
Nowadays I'm always asked if I'm allergic to chicken or eggs or if I've had a bad reaction to the anti influenza flu injection .
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it is totally dead no chance of getting flu from the vacine. however the wife could not have the flu jab as she is latex sensitive so for the past few weeks she is ill with it. if your allergic to egg or latex don't have it. the passing out after being injected should have been checked out at a&e unless of course there is a fear of needles.
sadly sick elderly folks die at this time of the year. we are hidden from the sad fact that the winter months was always the dying months. chest infections kill thousands each year. im sorry for the loss but its not the flu jab.
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ALways had flu jab no problems. Correlation does not imply causation but as humans we often forget this because we like to make sense of things and see patterns in events. :)
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i hate to say it .... but shetland paul is right, you can't catch flu from the flu jab as its not a live vaccine. you can have reactions in other ways but people need to remember that flu kills thousands each year.
its your choice wether to have or not BUT if you develop flu then you should keep away from people, they may be at high risk even if you're not
Mx
ahchew
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As I work for the NHS I have it every year. At most my arm gets a bit sore