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Livestock => Sheep => Topic started by: andywalt on December 30, 2011, 05:13:58 pm

Title: Happy Christmas to all, but pls may I ask for some help?
Post by: andywalt on December 30, 2011, 05:13:58 pm
hi all, Ive not been on here for a while as been so busy with my flooring company before christmas! this morning I noticed one of my ewes has some scabs on her face is it Orf ? please could you all have a look to confirm or advise ?  many thanks very much appreciated

andy
Title: Re: Happy Christmas to all, but pls may I ask for some help?
Post by: YorkshireLass on December 30, 2011, 05:37:32 pm
First glance, from a non-expert, I'd say yes it looks like it  :-[

Though could be plant poisoning/reaction to something... how is she in herself? Any other symptoms?
Title: Re: Happy Christmas to all, but pls may I ask for some help?
Post by: andywalt on December 30, 2011, 05:48:07 pm
she seems fine, if it is orf, I was just reading that it will cure itself after a week is that correct ? and they say just spray with antibiotic spray ?

andy advice is appreciated
Title: Re: Happy Christmas to all, but pls may I ask for some help?
Post by: jaykay on December 30, 2011, 06:11:39 pm
Sometimes it's no big deal and clears up by itself, sometimes it becomes sore, awful and infected. It can infect you too, so careful.

If it gets bad, wash her face with Daz (no idea why but it has to be biological Daz and nothing else apparently) and then spray with iodine. Repeat daily. Wash your own hands afterwards and don't touch your face (or anywhere else!) before you do.
Title: Re: Happy Christmas to all, but pls may I ask for some help?
Post by: feldar on December 30, 2011, 06:21:02 pm
Yes it does look like orf, right time of year for it too. take precautions for yourself as well and watch the rest of the flock. check feet too it can burst out above the hoof wall.
Title: Re: Happy Christmas to all, but pls may I ask for some help?
Post by: andywalt on December 30, 2011, 06:30:23 pm
looks like im off to the coop to buy some biological daz and thick rubber gloves, there are alot of thistles in the field where they are at the moment but suprised its just one ewe and not any more, thanks for your comments so far and more appreciated

cheers
Title: Re: Happy Christmas to all, but pls may I ask for some help?
Post by: colliewoman on December 30, 2011, 06:44:49 pm
Yep she's gone orf ;D ;D
Please for the love of the gods make sure you are careful about hand washing.
you are called Andy, so I assume you are a man....
Definitely do not answer natures call until you have scrubbed your hands thoroughly :o :o
Fortunately us ladies are 'hands free' so to speak ;) :sheep: :sheep:
Title: Re: Happy Christmas to all, but pls may I ask for some help?
Post by: manian on December 30, 2011, 07:22:26 pm
yep i agree it looks like orf.
please  please please wear gloves when handling. my OH caught it from one of our lambs in the spring ::) the lamb only had 2 sores
it was very very painful :'( :'(  i never caught it and wondered if people who have cold sores are more susceptical to it........... ??? ???
Mx
Title: Re: Happy Christmas to all, but pls may I ask for some help?
Post by: SallyintNorth on December 30, 2011, 08:50:04 pm
Folks, yes try to avoid it but really (apart from colliewoman's thoughtful reminder to gentlemen...) it isn't the end of the world if you do get it.  I got it in a nick on a finger, yes it was sore, yes it was itchy, but  ::) really, worse things happen to smallholders and farmers.  It isn't the end of the world - and you are probably immune once you've had it.

And yes, I get cold sores too.  Sadly one doesn't seem to become immune to them.  ::) :'(

I agree the sheep looks orfy.  I also think she looks sore and would be worried about secondary infection where she's scratched the bridge of her nose.  (Do sheep's noses have bridges?)  So I'd be at that with the blue spray after I've Daz'd and it's dried.
Title: Re: Happy Christmas to all, but pls may I ask for some help?
Post by: andywalt on December 31, 2011, 10:46:11 am
Thanks guys, its been very helpful, can dogs catch it too?  i will just finish my breakfast and off down to the shops to by the biological daz and some nice marigolds.   I will let you know how i get on
Title: Re: Happy Christmas to all, but pls may I ask for some help?
Post by: SallyintNorth on December 31, 2011, 02:22:49 pm
Thanks guys, its been very helpful, can dogs catch it too? 
I can't see why not, but I don't recall ever hearing of one that did.
Title: Re: Happy Christmas to all, but pls may I ask for some help?
Post by: andywalt on December 31, 2011, 10:00:51 pm
Got the daz, put in some water, lathered it up and gently rubbed over her nose a few times, with gloves on of course, after a while i applied iodine, and gave her long acting anti biotic, not that it will help the orf but will help if there is any secondary infections, then scrubbed everything clean afterwards.

anything else I can do?
Title: Re: Happy Christmas to all, but pls may I ask for some help?
Post by: SallyintNorth on January 01, 2012, 12:24:20 am
Well done andy, she'll feel a lot more comfortable now.  Just keep an eye on her, especially that she is eating and cudding normally - they can get blisters / ulcers in the mouth which make eating painful. 
Title: Re: Happy Christmas to all, but pls may I ask for some help?
Post by: tizaala on January 01, 2012, 09:17:29 am
The antibiotics will cover her against secondary infections but can't act against virals..... Moorits eh? I'll have to get the camera out.
Title: Re: Happy Christmas to all, but pls may I ask for some help?
Post by: SallyintNorth on January 01, 2012, 09:27:26 am
Moorits eh? I'll have to get the camera out.
;D
Title: Re: Happy Christmas to all, but pls may I ask for some help?
Post by: manian on January 01, 2012, 10:48:24 am

And yes, I get cold sores too.  Sadly one doesn't seem to become immune to them.  ::) :'(

hi sally
perhaps we should start a survey/research study into catching ORF and whether you get cold sores. I thought it was odd that OH got it and I didn't
(probably just luck tho')
Mx
Title: Re: Happy Christmas to all, but pls may I ask for some help?
Post by: SallyintNorth on January 01, 2012, 12:03:37 pm

And yes, I get cold sores too.  Sadly one doesn't seem to become immune to them.  ::) :'(

hi sally
perhaps we should start a survey/research study into catching ORF and whether you get cold sores. I thought it was odd that OH got it and I didn't
(probably just luck tho')
Mx

Maybe luck, maybe you did have it but didn't notice it and are now immune.  Maybe the reason mine was really quite bearable was because as a cold sore sufferer I had a degree of resistance already.

You're right, it would be interesting to do some research.
Title: Re: Happy Christmas to all, but pls may I ask for some help?
Post by: andywalt on January 07, 2012, 03:57:56 pm
I should have thought to ask? should I have taken away the mineral lick as it will spreadvery quickly with a lick in the field !! but they need mineral this time of year !! its a bit late now bit what would you have done? taken away the mineral lick?
Title: Re: Happy Christmas to all, but pls may I ask for some help?
Post by: colliewoman on January 07, 2012, 07:36:23 pm
Personally no I wouldn't have taken the lick away. Once orf is there it'll stay in the ground or where ever and I think good feeding is important in helping them get over things quickly :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Happy Christmas to all, but pls may I ask for some help?
Post by: Dougal on January 10, 2012, 12:09:12 pm
You'll clear orf up with alamycin spray. just spray it on the blisters and leave them quiet. Doesn't look like orf though, wrong time of year and it tends to develop more on the lips than up the face like that.
Title: Re: Happy Christmas to all, but pls may I ask for some help?
Post by: andywalt on February 04, 2012, 04:18:05 pm
Im glad to report all cleared up in 4 weeks and all look really well, ive just started steaing them up 6 weeks till lambing