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Livestock => Poultry & Waterfowl => Topic started by: Hatty on September 22, 2011, 09:47:21 pm

Title: Cockerel bought as Hen
Post by: Hatty on September 22, 2011, 09:47:21 pm
has anyone any idea what this fella is my friend was sold these 2 as araucana hens lol when they were young birds his first chickens
Title: Re: Cockerel bought as Hen
Post by: TheCaptain on September 22, 2011, 10:19:50 pm
That is the result of a Rhode Island Red cockeral crossed with a Barred Plymouth Rock!
Title: Re: Cockerel bought as Hen
Post by: ambriel on September 22, 2011, 11:09:18 pm
He's a handsome fella, regardless.

I have heard of hens changing into cockerels.

A neighbour of ours has taken more than a little stick recently for buying ten hens - most of whom turned out to be cockerels :)
Title: Re: Cockerel bought as Hen
Post by: Roxy on September 22, 2011, 11:13:09 pm
I am hopeless at sexing hens.  Usually, it dawns on me that the beautiful looking pullet is actually a cockerel when they make that first pathetic attempt to crow!!!
Title: Re: Cockerel bought as Hen
Post by: sam.t on September 23, 2011, 07:20:03 am
That is the result of a Rhode Island Red cockeral crossed with a Barred Plymouth Rock!


hi does his make it a misspepperpot (or speckledlady ?)
Title: Re: Cockerel bought as Hen
Post by: Hatty on September 23, 2011, 08:06:20 am
That is the result of a Rhode Island Red cockeral crossed with a Barred Plymouth Rock!
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Thank you for that Captain, what would that make him? & if he got some hens the same type would they breed true? poor lad think the breeder saw him coming lol I knew its wasn't an Aruacana mores the pity my Violet could do with a fella!!
Title: Re: Cockerel bought as Hen
Post by: TheCaptain on September 23, 2011, 08:18:09 am
The wife says there may be a bit of Aracuna in him as ours doesn't have the speckledy legs that yours has. He's a real bŁ$tard though to my other chickens so he's Sunday lunch.

Don't know on the breeding front how breeding a cross with the same cross would work - I'm sure someone with more experience in genetics will be along in a minute....
Title: Re: Cockerel bought as Hen
Post by: Miss Piggy on September 23, 2011, 09:38:28 pm
He sure is a handsome looking lad, wouldn't like to guess his breeding though. :chook:
Title: Re: Cockerel bought as Hen
Post by: northfifeduckling on September 24, 2011, 12:04:29 pm
we were also given 2 pet chickens which turned out both really pretty boys  ;D I think who gave them to us had a suspicion as he didn't charge for them.  :chook: :&>
Title: Re: Cockerel bought as Hen
Post by: little blue on September 25, 2011, 08:38:42 pm
he's very handsome, and love the little rhodie peeking round the side - cracking photo :)
Title: Re: Cockerel bought as Hen
Post by: cluckingnuts on September 26, 2011, 11:00:09 am
That is the result of a Rhode Island Red cockeral crossed with a Barred Plymouth Rock!

I'm afraid I have to say I don't agree with you there. I would have thought a BPR (hen)  would be E/E & B/-, or E^R/E^R & Ml/Ml & B/-, resulting in offspring cocks single factor cuckoo (E/e^Wh, or E/e^y (E^R/e^Wh, or E^R/e^y & Ml/ml+), & B/b+) with Mh/mh+ & Co/Co or Co/co+.
I'd hazard a guess and say he was RIR x silver laced (or carrier of) hen as he appears to be e^Wh/e^b, Co/Co (Co/co+), Pg/pg+, Ml/ml+, Mh/mh+, S/s+.
Title: Re: Cockerel bought as Hen
Post by: TheCaptain on September 26, 2011, 11:32:42 am
Er, yeah, that makes sense. You don't totally disagree though - he is the result of RIR cross something, and as I said in another post, the wife reckoned that there was Aracuna in him somewhere. I didn't spot the speckledy legs, other than that he is a carbon copy of my RIR x BPR.

Feel free to translate what you put though as it just looks like you're being a smart arse.
Title: Re: Cockerel bought as Hen
Post by: DJ_Chook on September 26, 2011, 11:58:26 am
http://sites.google.com/site/zijdehoenders/t%26dcreating/basics-about-chicken-color-genetics-heritage/breeding-with-a-passion-and-with-a-vieuw (http://sites.google.com/site/zijdehoenders/t%26dcreating/basics-about-chicken-color-genetics-heritage/breeding-with-a-passion-and-with-a-vieuw)

This site give a good basic idea of colour gentics. Dominant genes & recessive genes, colour genes codes. The first time I read it I got the gist of it. Subsequent reads have utterly confused me.

I reckon he looks like he has some cream crested legbar ginger saddle in him.
Title: Re: Cockerel bought as Hen
Post by: sam.t on September 26, 2011, 01:34:55 pm
so after all the guessing all we come up with was his mother was possibly abit of a sla@@er lol ;D
but either was i think he is stunning
 ;)
Title: Re: Cockerel bought as Hen
Post by: Hatty on September 27, 2011, 08:17:28 am
so after all the guessing all we come up with was his mother was possibly abit of a sla@@er lol ;D

 ;)

 ;D ;D ;D love it
Title: Re: Cockerel bought as Hen
Post by: SallyintNorth on September 27, 2011, 08:44:51 am
Feel free to translate what you put though as it just looks like you're being a smart arse.

I love this forum  ;D
Title: Re: Cockerel bought as Hen
Post by: TheCaptain on September 27, 2011, 11:12:02 am
Feel free to translate what you put though as it just looks like you're being a smart arse.

I love this forum  ;D

The wife says I have a way with words.