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Title: Anyone going to the caley on Saturday??
Post by: ukag0972 on September 19, 2011, 05:45:06 pm
I'm going to sell some Jacob lambs, anyone planning on going???
Title: Re: Anyone going to the caley on Saturday??
Post by: SallyintNorth on September 19, 2011, 06:11:47 pm
I'm sorry ukag0972, I don't understand the question!   :dunce:

I thought you meant barn dance (which I spell ceilidh and pronounce kaley) but if you're selling Jacob lambs that'll not be what you meant!

Awaiting enlightenment...  :D
Title: Re: Anyone going to the caley on Saturday??
Post by: ukag0972 on September 19, 2011, 06:27:49 pm
Sorry, it's the Caledonian market sale of rare and minority breeds on Saturday!
Title: Re: Anyone going to the caley on Saturday??
Post by: SallyintNorth on September 19, 2011, 06:35:07 pm
That's a relief.  I like ceilidhs!  :D
Title: Re: Anyone going to the caley on Saturday??
Post by: Rosemary on September 19, 2011, 07:49:04 pm
That's a relief.  I like ceilidhs!  :D

Wait till you see jacob sheep do "Strip the willow"  ;D

Is the catalogue up yet?
Title: Re: Anyone going to the caley on Saturday??
Post by: Rosemary on September 19, 2011, 09:34:29 pm
Caledonian Marts must have one of the worst websites around. It's just hellish.

And still no catalogue for Saturday  ::)
Title: Re: Anyone going to the caley on Saturday??
Post by: SallyintNorth on September 19, 2011, 09:56:03 pm
That's a relief.  I like ceilidhs!  :D

Wait till you see jacob sheep do "Strip the willow"  ;D

Oh, very clever!   ;D
Title: Re: Anyone going to the caley on Saturday??
Post by: Fleecewife on September 19, 2011, 11:45:27 pm
You can get the Hebridean sheep catalogue for Stirling on the HebWeb: www.hebrideansheep.org.uk  (http://www.hebrideansheep.org.uk) - the link is on the first page.  As well as the rare breeds sale, it is the Hebridean Sheep Society Scottish Show and Sale, with the show on the Friday evening and the sale on the Sat am. 
The Caley Marts website is awful isn't it and in spite of telling them often enough they don't see a problem  ::)
Title: Re: Anyone going to the caley on Saturday??
Post by: Rosemary on September 20, 2011, 08:30:32 am
You could recommend a web designer  ;D
Title: Re: Anyone going to the caley on Saturday??
Post by: robert waddell on September 20, 2011, 08:43:14 am
i was thinking rosemary could as well ;) ;)
Title: Re: Anyone going to the caley on Saturday??
Post by: Rosemary on September 20, 2011, 09:28:19 am
i was thinking rosemary could as well ;) ;)

That would be too much like nepotism  ;D
Title: Re: Anyone going to the caley on Saturday??
Post by: mmu on September 20, 2011, 01:37:58 pm
Maybe if everone stopped going they might notice a problem-- but ain't gonna happen is it?
Title: Re: Anyone going to the caley on Saturday??
Post by: bigchicken on September 20, 2011, 07:22:07 pm
Catalogue is on there web site. Lets face it they are not interested in these kind of sales as there is no money in it for them. They had a poultry and rare breed sale at Oban and moved it down to Stirling the poultry sale just stopped after a couple or so, are they really interrested ?
Title: Re: Anyone going to the caley on Saturday??
Post by: robert waddell on September 20, 2011, 07:41:10 pm
having just looked at the catalogue  we wont be there         we will be at lanark at the vintage sale :farmer:
Title: Re: Anyone going to the caley on Saturday??
Post by: jaykay on September 23, 2011, 04:53:33 pm
I wondered about going, to suss out some different small breed sheep.......it's 3hours away, is all  :-\
Title: Re: Anyone going to the caley on Saturday??
Post by: ukag0972 on September 24, 2011, 03:09:11 pm
I went!
It wasn't busy, but I did get £80 for my Jacob ewe lambs (well pleased!)
My tip lambs didn't do so well peaking at £46 so next year they'll go to the fat market instead!

Not a bad day!!!!
Title: Re: Anyone going to the caley on Saturday??
Post by: Croftgary on September 24, 2011, 03:21:43 pm
Just sitting here having a late lunch and have just realised I bought 5 of your tup lambs.... I left after that was too scared I would put my hand up for more.. How did the shetlands prices go?
Title: Re: Anyone going to the caley on Saturday??
Post by: ukag0972 on September 24, 2011, 06:16:54 pm
They didn't seem horrendous, but I never turn out an animal from the ring unsold, but some think they'll achieve better money elsewhere!

Good luck with my tups! Obviously clipped and showered last week (equivalent to dipping)!!
Title: Re: Anyone going to the caley on Saturday??
Post by: Croftgary on September 24, 2011, 06:24:56 pm
Thanks, I appreciate that some people feel prices were low but compared to 2 years ago...
Title: Re: Anyone going to the caley on Saturday??
Post by: ukag0972 on September 24, 2011, 06:31:47 pm
I was pleased with my prices for my females!
The boys are always a hit or miss!!

The caley have been on the phone wanting more ewe lambs at a better price! I'm very happy now
Title: Re: Anyone going to the caley on Saturday??
Post by: bigchicken on September 25, 2011, 06:13:39 pm
I sold three Shetland rams all pedigree and registered not great money but OK as I could no longer us them.  Bought a eligible for registration black Shetland ram lamb for a tenner bargain.I had a chat with the chap who was checking for EDI and he said it was not well adhered to at this sale witched surprised me and and what surprised me more was a comment from a person connected to the animal welfare that it would shock me the amount of issues that they found.
Title: Re: Anyone going to the caley on Saturday??
Post by: allyb on September 25, 2011, 09:31:30 pm
There was alot of people puttig them out the ring usold. It got to the annoying stage at the end.We bought some cracking jacob ewes.Alot of the tups would be as well at the fat market instead of people thinking there worth more than what they really are. It was a good day though and some bargains to be had  :) 
Title: Re: Anyone going to the caley on Saturday??
Post by: ukag0972 on September 26, 2011, 03:31:47 am
They were checking for travel permits at the sale too. Something that we thought got put on the back burner! Thankfully we have ours!!

I think I know who's ewes you bought allyb! If so they are off very good stock!
Title: Re: Anyone going to the caley on Saturday??
Post by: Big Light on September 26, 2011, 04:59:17 am
Sorry could you explain re Travel permits?
thanks
Title: Re: Anyone going to the caley on Saturday??
Post by: ukag0972 on September 26, 2011, 05:52:28 am
We did it 2 years ago, it's a competence to haul animals over 40 miles certificate. It was done through city & guilds and mine covers sheep, cattle and pigs.
Many folk don't have it as it was going to be non-enforceable, but the animal welfare officer on Saturday was asking for them. I'm not sure whether he was going to act on those without it
Title: Re: Anyone going to the caley on Saturday??
Post by: jaykay on September 26, 2011, 06:50:05 am
 :o I'd better try and get mine done then, since practically anywhere is 40+ miles from here  ::)
Title: Re: Anyone going to the caley on Saturday??
Post by: SallyintNorth on September 26, 2011, 08:24:17 am
:o I'd better try and get mine done then, since practically anywhere is 40+ miles from here  ::)

In England at least, it's not always necessary if your carriage of the animals is not in relation to an economic activity (eg, it's your hobby.) 

We had a thread on it a short while ago:
http://www.accidentalsmallholder.net/forum/index.php?topic=18196.msg171358#msg171358 (http://www.accidentalsmallholder.net/forum/index.php?topic=18196.msg171358#msg171358)
Title: Re: Anyone going to the caley on Saturday??
Post by: Big Light on September 26, 2011, 04:56:11 pm
Thanks im less than 40 miles but good to know they are actively looking for it
Title: Re: Anyone going to the caley on Saturday??
Post by: allyb on September 26, 2011, 06:37:11 pm
ukag0972 Come on then were they yours also what did your lambs make .The auctioneer even said they had names Susie if a remember right.By the time of lambing a bet they ll have a few other names also Ha Ha.The travel permits only for commercial if you are only doing it as a hobby it doesnt count Bloody stupid if you ask me we need to be licensed and J bloggs who s travelling to same sale with same amount of sheep doesnt bloody crazy. Do any of you s go to Dingwall in Nov
Title: Re: Anyone going to the caley on Saturday??
Post by: ukag0972 on September 27, 2011, 06:07:40 am
My ewe lambs got £80, and the auctioneer is coming in next week to look at my remaining lambs ;-)
I don't name my sheep, so not sure where he got Susie from! Maybe that was someone else's sheep!!

I'm assuming that, although my Jacobs are hobby sheep), we are classed as commercial because we do have a working farm!!

Im sure it was my Jacob tup lambs that croftgary bought, I didn't check the line though!!!
Title: Re: Anyone going to the caley on Saturday??
Post by: jaykay on September 27, 2011, 07:01:24 am
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In England at least, it's not always necessary if your carriage of the animals is not in relation to an economic activity (eg, it's your hobby.) 
it's definitely a hobby, I daren't work out the costings - suffice to say it must be in the animals' favour  :D
Title: Re: Anyone going to the caley on Saturday??
Post by: SallyintNorth on September 27, 2011, 07:13:39 am
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In England at least, it's not always necessary if your carriage of the animals is not in relation to an economic activity (eg, it's your hobby.) 
it's definitely a hobby, I daren't work out the costings - suffice to say it must be in the animals' favour  :D

In truth, if it weren't for the subsidies, I suspect most farmers could say the same - but in their case I don't think trading standards would accept that as an excuse for not having a transport license!  :D