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Livestock => Sheep => Topic started by: CornishFarmer on September 05, 2011, 08:44:16 am

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Post by: CornishFarmer on September 05, 2011, 08:44:16 am
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Title: Re: Couple of lambs under the weather
Post by: ellisr on September 05, 2011, 08:53:24 am
How old are the lambs?
Title: Re: Couple of lambs under the weather
Post by: ellisr on September 05, 2011, 09:06:06 am
It is that time when they are getting independant and also nice fresh grass, I wouldn't worry too much just keep an eye out for anything along the illness lines. To me they sound like normal kids leaving mum and branching out on there own.

They are all different I have one ewe that keeps her lambs close always and a very loving mother she even keeps last years lambs in eye shot but others that when the lambs are big enough they let them wander
Title: Re: Couple of lambs under the weather
Post by: ellisr on September 05, 2011, 09:25:35 am
It really sounds like they are just growing up, I have lambs that wander off and lie down and can go into a very deep sleep allowing me to get very close.

I really don't think there is anything to worry about as they sound healthy, but do keep an eye out especially for strike if they have messy backends.
Title: Re: Couple of lambs under the weather
Post by: feldar on September 05, 2011, 03:45:38 pm
If you catch them again it may be worth taking their temperatures this is usually the first thing to indicate illness.
Title: Re: Couple of lambs under the weather
Post by: Corrie Dhu on September 05, 2011, 04:30:00 pm
Are they vaccinated?
Title: Re: Couple of lambs under the weather
Post by: SallyintNorth on September 05, 2011, 05:56:12 pm
I agree with ellisr, they are probably getting old enough to leave mum (she may be drying up - or may be coming down with mastitis, have you checked her?) and are full on all this grass.  They won't have the experience to know they shouldn't overeat, so probably have done so!  But you say they are not bloated, so they just need to digest what they've eaten.

The only other thing to say is, you say there's no ragwort as you pull it.  Do you mean this pasture does have ragwort but you have pulled up all the plants?  If so, there could (and probably is) still be young plants at the 'rosette' stage, where the basal leaves are flush with the ground and you (and the sheep) can't see them as different to grass yet.

Ragwort poisoning probably won't be the problem, though - as I understand it, it's a cumulative thing and unless they've been on infested pasture all along they won't have had time to eat enough to affect their kidneys yet.
Title: Re: Couple of lambs under the weather
Post by: SteveHants on September 06, 2011, 11:38:24 am
The thing that would worry me here is that you could catch one of them. Otherwise, I find its easier to tell sick animal when it is on its feet, it will carry itself differently, not look alert, head down and so on. If you suspect flies, look for them around the sheep, it will also attempt to lick or bite at the affected area, often shaking its tail. If I see any of this, I usually get them in for a look.

Like anything with livestock, its a delicate balance. Getting sheep in stresses them and stressed animals are more prone to disease. I once had a conversation with a feller from Natural England round here and he seemed to agree - it was always the new and enthusiastic graziers on his patch that ended up with disease problems, and they seemed to be getting their flock in much more often than the old hands. 
Title: Re: Couple of lambs under the weather
Post by: SallyintNorth on September 06, 2011, 02:03:49 pm
it was always the new and enthusiastic graziers on his patch that ended up with disease problems, and they seemed to be getting their flock in much more often than the old hands. 

The old saying is, "A sheep's worst enemy is another sheep."  If there is a bit of a germ about, bringing them together in close confinement, hot and bothered from the gather and drive into the pens, is a really good way to spread it and help it take a hold.

BH is a very old hand (you know what I mean) and he :