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Livestock => Pigs => Topic started by: harry on August 08, 2011, 05:31:43 pm

Title: frontline spot on
Post by: harry on August 08, 2011, 05:31:43 pm
ime thinking of getting some frontline spot on for cats and dogs for my 8 week old kunes.... would that be ok or even neccesary
Title: Re: frontline spot on
Post by: HappyHippy on August 08, 2011, 06:18:57 pm
Don't think it's licenced for pigs in the UK, so you'd need your vet to prescribe it or okay it for their use.
If you've wormed with an injectable wormer though Harry, you shouldn't need it.
Title: Re: frontline spot on
Post by: Fowgill Farm on August 08, 2011, 06:19:38 pm
No
You need to buy the spot on that is for livestock the cattle one can be used for pigs but it is not licenced for them.
Better still get a jab of noramectin or dectamax for them, if you jab the piglets yourself they're only a couple of quid to get from the vets. Really they should have been done at weaning by the breeder??!!
HTh
mandy  :pig:
Title: Re: frontline spot on
Post by: harry on August 08, 2011, 06:39:01 pm
ime waiting for a worm count kit. i read in another post that th e vet had told someone its the same just cheaper for dogs... picture of a pig on it = more £s???????
Title: Re: frontline spot on
Post by: robert waddell on August 08, 2011, 06:54:18 pm
i doubt if pet medicine is cheaper than farm animal medicine :farmer:
Title: Re: frontline spot on
Post by: harry on August 08, 2011, 07:29:27 pm
thats one of the small problems with forums.. to many conflicting answers...... i went on a car forum once and was advised to check auto gearbox oil by the gearbox dipstick and also to smell round the hole to see if it was hot..... THAT CAR NEVER HAD A GEARBOX DIPSTICK IT WAS A SEALED FOR LIFE JOBBY.
Title: Re: frontline spot on
Post by: ambriel on August 08, 2011, 11:45:47 pm

Is it ticks you're wanting to protect them from?
Title: Re: frontline spot on
Post by: oaklandspigs on August 09, 2011, 07:44:30 am
would that be ok or even neccesary

Fontline spot on is different from coppers spot on the latter has been discussed elsewhere on this and other forums.

Coppers spot on is made by Pfizer and contains deltamethrin 1% w/v
Frontline spot on for dogs is made by Merial and contains fipronil  & methoprene (and warns of overdose if used for cats)
Frontline spot on for cats is also made by Merial and only contains fipronil

Whilst I am not a chemist THESE ARE VERY DIFFERENT PRODUCTS!

Neither product is licensed for pigs in UK.
Coopers could only be used under vetinary direction. 
I have no idea what frontline would do to the health of pig (given you would need a massive dose to meet packet weight) or skin or meat eating quality, let alone to the human safety of those eating meat, so would strongly advise you not to use it. 


 
 
Title: Re: frontline spot on
Post by: harry on August 09, 2011, 08:28:39 pm
this is what i read in another post,
Hi PP
could your pig not have been bitten with clegs? my pigs have been bitten several times and had hard lumps. Now DON'T SHOOT ME DOWN HERE, I have treated my pigs with spot on over their backs, I know the box does not have the silhouette for pigs as it has for cattle, sheep but this does work for the pigs. I got in contact with my vet who contacted the makers and they did verify that it can be used for pigs also and the reason the silhouette is not on the box is because they do pig fly treatment at 4 times the cost of the normal spot on. So utilising the cheaper option does not put the pennies in the pockets of the manufacture  :pig: :pig:
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Title: Re: frontline spot on
Post by: oaklandspigs on August 10, 2011, 09:08:29 am
this is what i read in another post,
Hi PP
could your pig not have been bitten with clegs? my pigs have been bitten several times and had hard lumps. Now DON'T SHOOT ME DOWN HERE, I have treated my pigs with spot on over their backs, I know the box does not have the silhouette for pigs as it has for cattle, sheep but this does work for the pigs. I got in contact with my vet who contacted the makers and they did verify that it can be used for pigs also and the reason the silhouette is not on the box is because they do pig fly treatment at 4 times the cost of the normal spot on. So utilising the cheaper option does not put the pennies in the pockets of the manufacture  :pig: :pig:
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Harry - that is COOPERS spot on , not frontline spot on, different product.
As per previous post, Lill used this under a vet direction, and Coopers is effective aginst lice and mites, but can only be used if directed by a vet.

The Frontline spot on you are proposing is entirly different product, which is why I do not think you should consider using it.