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Livestock => Cattle => Topic started by: princesspiggy on August 05, 2011, 11:34:11 pm

Title: what breed?
Post by: princesspiggy on August 05, 2011, 11:34:11 pm

we were in snowdonia this week, i couldnt resist taking these snaps. any idea what breed?  :wave:

Title: Re: what breed?
Post by: SallyintNorth on August 05, 2011, 11:47:08 pm

We're not sure.  BH says the horns are like Welsh Black, but the Welsh Black is a much more beefy animal than these.  Could they be a cross - Welsh Black bull on a dairy cow?

I wondered Dexter?

Title: Re: what breed?
Post by: shep53 on August 06, 2011, 06:31:18 pm

Look like welsh black heifers in their summer coats :farmer: :wave:

Title: Re: what breed?
Post by: SallyintNorth on August 06, 2011, 08:28:09 pm

Just seen a plate of a Kerry cow in a 1924 agriculture book and it looks just like these but with a smooth coat.

My money is still on Dexters - no-one out there got some and can tell us?

Title: Re: what breed?
Post by: VSS on August 06, 2011, 09:09:28 pm

In snowdonia and on that sort of land you can be pretty safe by betting on welsh black with horns.

Title: Re: what breed?
Post by: chickenfeed on August 06, 2011, 09:39:44 pm

they dont look like my dexters i would guess at welsh black too  ;)

Title: Re: what breed?
Post by: princesspiggy on August 07, 2011, 11:13:29 am

they were a bit bigger than my shetlands, quite a thick curlyish coat. nice though.  :wave:

Title: Re: what breed?
Post by: Dougal on August 10, 2011, 04:18:53 pm

doubt that it'll be a welsh black, thier a polled beed are they not? Sure it's not a cross bred, a dairy/lim that wasn't dehorned?

Title: Re: what breed?
Post by: VSS on August 10, 2011, 08:55:06 pm

Welsh Blacks are not generally polled, although polled individuals do crop up from time to time.

Title: Re: what breed?
Post by: Hannes on August 12, 2011, 09:05:11 am

Could also be a Galloway cross... we also have that sometimes that our galloway bulls serve the dairy girls...various results... :o

Title: Re: what breed?
Post by: monkeysox on August 12, 2011, 12:42:45 pm

My money is on Welsh Blacks  :cow:

Title: Re: what breed?
Post by: Hopewell on August 12, 2011, 02:03:43 pm

I also think they are Welsh Black. The breed standard does describe them as having horns.

Title: Re: what breed?
Post by: danndans on August 13, 2011, 01:08:07 pm

They dont look like my Dexter's either, but the back end looks to heavey for a welsh black, I'd go for a WB cross  ;)

Title: Re: what breed?
Post by: belgianblue on August 18, 2011, 07:17:20 pm

not thought of Aberdeen Angus,

Dexter's are short legs round guts and bolsie look about them

Title: Re: what breed?
Post by: SallyintNorth on August 18, 2011, 07:30:58 pm

They're definitely not Aberdeen Angus.  AA's are polled, for one thing, and a much better shape than these girls, for another.

To us, Welsh Blacks are more beefy than these ladies, hence we suggested WB out of dairy cows.

There are long-legged and short-legged Dexters.  I just saw a Dexter heifer in the ring at Lanark, but she had horns like a Shetland (at least, like Rosemary's Shetlands, I've never seen any others) not upturned like these ladies.