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Livestock => Pigs => Topic started by: The Woodsiders on July 28, 2011, 09:24:49 pm

Title: animal transport
Post by: The Woodsiders on July 28, 2011, 09:24:49 pm
Hi all, can anyone let me know the going rate for transporting livestock? I have to get 6 piggies to the abattoir and unsure what I may have to pay any ideas please. It is about a 50mile trip.

Thank you
Title: Re: animal transport
Post by: Beewyched on July 28, 2011, 09:40:16 pm
Sorry, no idea of the cost & I'm a bit far away from you to help-out.  Are you not able to borrow a trailer from someone?  It may be worth phoning the abbatoir - they may be able to recommend someone.
Title: Re: animal transport
Post by: welshlass181 on July 28, 2011, 09:40:41 pm
Sorry mate i've no idea.  I take mine to slaughter in a stock trailer that i borrow  :o
Title: Re: animal transport
Post by: Berkshire Boy on July 29, 2011, 07:46:22 am
according to your website you provide animal transport so you can use your service. ???
Title: Re: animal transport
Post by: Tiva Diva on July 29, 2011, 11:41:12 am
I would either borrow a trailer or ask a mate with a trailer/transporter to take them for you. You can pay them in pork or other barter. No idea of the cost if you use a commercial firm, but it's unlikely to be cheap!
Title: Re: animal transport
Post by: Beewyched on July 30, 2011, 10:14:22 am
according to your website you provide animal transport so you can use your service. ???

How bizzare  ???  maybe it's out-of-date?  BB, you're a nosey lad  ;)  ;D
Title: Re: animal transport
Post by: harry on July 30, 2011, 08:37:53 pm
what are the regs for trailers... ihave a large trailer, thought i would make a box to lift on for the once or twice a year i need to....i know i need a ramp, and gate type sides to stop them falling off..... i suppose a large ply box with slotted holes as seen on lorries?????????
Title: Re: animal transport
Post by: Sylvia on July 31, 2011, 08:30:59 am
Is there someone near who would give you a lend of one? Put an ad. in your local feed merchants. you would be welcome to borrow mine but a bit too far away :(
Title: Re: animal transport
Post by: white-blazes on July 31, 2011, 03:49:57 pm
according to your website you provide animal transport so you can use your service. ???

Do you mean the websites under his topic like a signature? If so, everybody has these links, I think they vary and attach themselves depending on your topic contents!
Title: Re: animal transport
Post by: JulieS on July 31, 2011, 05:23:48 pm
I think they meant his website.  He is offering animal transport as a service on there.

 :)
Title: Re: animal transport
Post by: white-blazes on July 31, 2011, 06:48:07 pm
I think they meant his website.  He is offering animal transport as a service on there.

 :)

Where does it show his website, or am I being ultra dim  :-[ :)
Title: Re: animal transport
Post by: Sudanpan on July 31, 2011, 08:02:33 pm
If you go to the individual profile page you can see individual websites there (if the user has one of course  :)  )
Title: Re: animal transport
Post by: white-blazes on July 31, 2011, 09:22:48 pm
Oh I seeeee, so I was being dim  ;D

(eta, I just looked and still don't see one, unless it's been removed)
Title: Re: animal transport
Post by: JulieS on August 01, 2011, 07:25:59 am
Looks like he's taken his profile off and is just a 'guest' now.  Must have been something we said?????   :) :) :)
Title: Re: animal transport
Post by: robert waddell on August 01, 2011, 09:22:22 am
so that will be the wheels has come of his wagon then ;) :farmer:
Title: Re: animal transport
Post by: supplies for smallholders on August 01, 2011, 03:09:18 pm
I have got to say you were all quite mean to him - like a pack turning on someone, well done then, driven  a member away...
Title: Re: animal transport
Post by: robert waddell on August 01, 2011, 03:45:29 pm
o well you cant hang it on my door for this one ;)              i don't think it was mean     it does seam odd if he was offering animal transport then asking how much to transport animals or he was trying to work out the pricing        anyway a bit thin shelled maybe he will come back  :farmer:
Title: Re: animal transport
Post by: Dan on August 01, 2011, 05:21:22 pm
For the record the site is Ardingly Arks, and this is the page referred to: Animal Transport (http://ardinglyarks.farming.officelive.com/AnimalTransport.aspx).

It just looks like markcott was fishing for prices people would expect to pay but couldn't ask it straight. They should have just asked outright, I think most people on here would be happy to help someone starting a new venture pitch their pricing at the right level?

Always sorry to see a good member leave, it was only a minor indiscretion.  :(
Title: Re: animal transport
Post by: Tudful Tamworths on August 01, 2011, 10:13:33 pm
You might consider it a "minor indiscretion", but to a lot of us on here it was just dishonest - and with no need. Why not just ask the question honestly?

We all offer advice freely, based on our various experiences, and most of us are extremely honest. It's just a shame that someone tried to pull a fast one by pretending to be someone he wasn't. Very disappointing.
Title: Re: animal transport
Post by: Dan on August 02, 2011, 07:29:45 am
You might consider it a "minor indiscretion", but to a lot of us on here it was just dishonest - and with no need. Why not just ask the question honestly?

Whoa, I didn't say it wasn't dishonest!  ::)

But was it a sacking offence? A little forgiveness goes a long way.  :)
Title: Re: animal transport
Post by: lill on August 02, 2011, 05:00:19 pm
honesty is the best policy, it may not be nice what is said but things do need to be said with the smallest amount of words, instead of using 50 words when only a few is needed.
All he had to do was say what he was fishing for and by being honest and members on this forum would probably have given him the information that he was looking for.
Title: Re: animal transport
Post by: supplies for smallholders on August 02, 2011, 08:00:05 pm
Glass houses.....stones etc.
Title: Re: animal transport
Post by: Rosemary on August 02, 2011, 08:01:09 pm
Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.

Come on, gi'e the guy a break. It was a misjudgement - we all do it. I'm sure Mark has recognised the error of his ways; he has apologised for it - let's just let bygones be bygones. :)
Title: Re: animal transport
Post by: The Woodsiders on August 02, 2011, 10:25:04 pm
Hallo to all Forum Members who responded to my recent email regarding animal transport,

I would like to take this opportunity to apologise to all those of you who took offence at my post, I regret having been underhanded and should have asked the advice I needed without the pretence.

Once again my sincere apologies and trust that this can now draw a line under the matter. 
Title: Re: animal transport
Post by: Tedfold Cottage Farm on August 02, 2011, 10:48:55 pm
Hi
We at Tedfold know Mark personally and he is mortified at what he has done. He is probably one of the fairest nicest people I know.

I think as it is a new venture it was a confidence "thing" so please cut him some slack, and perhaps help him out with what would be a fair amount to charge per mile for this much need service in the south. Many people buy weaners and take them home in a crate then 4 to 6 months later realise that they need a trailer.... expensive things. He has done this venture completely correctly, he keeps pigs, spent hours and hours helping us with our pig herd, helped us in the show ring and trained with our pigs using the stick and board and has passed all his WAIT exams. You will get a good honest service from Mark, I promise!!

Michaela and Neil
Title: Re: animal transport
Post by: supplies for smallholders on August 02, 2011, 10:52:10 pm
Hi Mark,

Welcome back :bunny:

Title: Re: animal transport
Post by: Dan on August 03, 2011, 07:33:17 am
Thanks Mark, and welcome back.  :)
Title: Re: animal transport
Post by: Tiva Diva on August 03, 2011, 08:05:32 am
Can't say fairer than that, Mark. Handsomely done, welcome back and best of luck with your business!
Title: Re: animal transport
Post by: robert waddell on August 03, 2011, 03:16:58 pm
wellcome back    somebody else had posted they were going to do transport as well and i got it in the neck for pointing out what was required
but sod it here goes again     your insurance will be different you are doing hire and reward           you will need goods in transit insurance to cover these high priced animals          you will need a tacho to comply with drivers hours and breaks          your vehicle will need to be spot on mechanical or vosa impound it         you will need to register with hmrc for tax purposes   and if it is your only vehicle keep an accurate record of mileage that it does  to separate business mileage from other mileage         also register with vat not primarily as a coin collector    but so you can claim the vat back on your fuel (as asda says every little helps)         and be prepared for people grassing you off if somebody else is providing an equal service to yours
so there you have it to work out pricing   you have your hourly rate for yourself the cost of the tacho your extra for insurance your fuel wear and tear and future replacement costs    office administration costs and giving credit  :farmer:
Title: Re: animal transport
Post by: The Woodsiders on August 03, 2011, 05:13:34 pm
Thanks for your reply Robert, most of the stuff we comply with anyway, my main job is a heavy commercial vehicle mechanic,(almost retired from it) and well aware of VOSA compliance, need to be upsides with everything (despite my posting hiccup!!!)

Thanks again
Title: Re: animal transport
Post by: shearling on August 03, 2011, 05:29:47 pm
Glad your back, have you thought about sheep?
Title: Re: animal transport
Post by: The Woodsiders on August 03, 2011, 06:01:09 pm
Hi Thanks for the welcome, yes I have thought about sheep, I took the licence exam and passed for Pigs, Sheep,Goats and Cattle but primarily wanted to carry Pigs until I can get some experience with the other species, the cattle would be for the smaller breeds such as Dexters.

Going to make some enquiries to see if I can help someone out to get the experience with them.
Title: Re: animal transport
Post by: lill on August 03, 2011, 08:09:13 pm
people do make wrong judgements in life, we all have done, and we all learn by them.

welcome back Mark :wave: :wave:
Title: Re: animal transport
Post by: Rosemary on August 03, 2011, 08:46:34 pm
Welcome back  :wave:

You sound like just the sort of person I would entrust my animals to.
Title: Re: animal transport
Post by: SallyintNorth on August 03, 2011, 10:48:14 pm
Takes a lot of courage to 'fess up and apologise.  Well done and welcome back - and good luck with the new venture. I think it's a great idea, I hope you do well and inspire others to do the same in other areas!

Sally x
Title: Re: animal transport
Post by: Tudful Tamworths on August 03, 2011, 11:56:53 pm
Welcome, Mark. Good luck with your plans. Feel free to ask for advice.