The Accidental Smallholder Forum
Livestock => Other => Topic started by: harry on July 04, 2011, 08:46:02 pm
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has anyone ever made any rat poison... like flour, sugar and baking soda.
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Sure thats not my Scones????
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oats and plaster of paris ;)
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Do these really work? I often see rats running along the small wall in my front paddock that borders the burn. But I can't use rat poison for fear my cat migt catch and eat a half dead one - and my dogs for that matter, they wouldn't eat them but they'd retreive them.
What is the recipe?
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mix up some dry oats with dry powder plaster of paris, it sets hard in their guts. not a nice way to go, but hey ho!!
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THen, you can remove thier skin and you have a rat ornement ready made ;) ;) You sure about that? ;)
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mix up some dry oats with dry powder plaster of paris
What do you put it in for rats to eat from, sorry for the stupid questions ::) and where do you leave it, ok i know away from moisture (I'm not that daft ;D )
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find a well used run and keep it topped up same as u would warfarin. itll kill your cats as well i should think, so be careful where you put it. but at least the cats can then eat the dead rat with no fear, tho most of th b......ds die underground.
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peanut butter and kitkats and large gluey board
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add sugar to the mix.... i cup of everthing... i put my poison in an old rabbit hutch all closed up and a small rat hole in the side..i place a large bowl in there .... nothing else can get to it and spillage etc is contained in the hutch... add some small pellet feed for smell to attract them... or some cat food in a different bowl anything smelly.
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The rats in my barn chewed there way into the rat poison bucket and ate the lot ;D
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thats why you should keep everything... feed, poison etc in a steel bin
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well made some today one part sugar, one part plaster paris, 1/2 part poultry mash.... and a bowl of water to help it down...looked for a stick to mix it all up and thought what the hell am i doing, i can mix this with my fingers which makes a change from rubber gloves and sticks etc.......... all in a rabbit hutch
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let us know how you get on :wave:
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thats why you should keep everything... feed, poison etc in a steel bin
Feed is in bins but I had just bought the poison and popped it in the door way until I could sort it the next day and they beat me to it so now walking around collecting dead rats must have collected about 10 now
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result!
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well theyve had a good go at it... so wait and see...... but i think it will be a permenant feature as its all by a tream so always rats about......... would have to trap a live one and feed it to see results and time scale
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cool! put it on youtube!! ;D
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I put the bicarb mixture in two plastic bottles with the tops cut off, right beside a rat hole. None of it has been touched so either they don't like it or there are none - and I just don't believe that because we are right beside a burn too! Will have to try soemthing else I reckon.
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I was told that rats have an in-built distrust of the new (there is a technical term but I can't remember it) so that any bait or trap will probably be ignored for more than a week. Patience, Annie! :D
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mix some feed into it...... mine had been eating feed mixed with proper poison in the hutch for 2 weeks so i put the plaster of paris next to it so they went for it straight away.............same as foxes new stuff no good it has to weather
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If you have an old bag of wall plaster lying about , this works just as well as P of P. stick it in a length of plastic drainpipe against a wall , they love sheltered tunnels. Did get told once that guineafowl were good for killing rats, I don't think I've ever seen proof of this.
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and the wall plaster would get really hot as well! burnt and constipated all at the same time. 8)
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Thanks for this one.......I'm off to try the recipe myself, having noticed rats in the barn near the feed bins. They give me the willies.
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it would have to be old plaster as new stuff would take a while to go hard if at all... p/paris is about 15 mins... old plaster probably about the same
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had new info..... must not use layers mash etc as it has vitimin k in which helps the rat get over the poison???????????..but as this isnt poison dont suppose it matters....also was told to use the inside of corn on the cob... either impregnate with sugar...or i suppose you could bung it in the food blender... not poisonous but they cant digest it and it dehydrates them apparently
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i was told t try sugar beet swells in their tummy don't know if it works tho think i'll try your recipes hopefully it works had 2 guys with ferrets great at catching them someone poisoned the ferrets tho
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My son checked the pop bottles I had laid beside the rat holes and they were empty. Not seen a rat for ages but it could just be coincidence.
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Now is the time to get a strong feeding regime going so they get zapped in the hardest months when there is little else to eat and reproduction is at its lowest rate of success .
This plaster of Paris and Bicarb idea kind of amuses me ..
I've seen it on the likes of " Yahoo answers and Wikki squeaks " but really..if it were that effective and cost effective the big boys would have been advocating it years ago . so would have farmers ,grannies and granddads all over the world.
Think on this ..... rats chew their way through brick walls , wood ,plastered walls and all sorts of plastics .
If there is a trace of food stuff or fat on it on it they will swallow it & digest it in their stomach acids .
Rats cannot be sick ( Thats why Warfrin etc works so well ) so the stomach acids must be some quality stuff to dissolve what they eat.
They cant usually chew through salt glazed drain pipes but do a nice job of the haunchings & brick work to get down into the sewers .
I have numerous friends on another site who are professional pest controlers ..fully registered and licenced in the arts of terminalting our friend ratty etc.
I'll ask them for advice and permission to put their replies here .
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If you have a place where you can't use poisons for whatever reason, try fenn traps, I've caught loads of rats in them.
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The bicarb has to be dry to work - BANG!
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mix some feed into it...... mine had been eating feed mixed with proper poison in the hutch for 2 weeks so i put the plaster of paris next to it so they went for it straight away.............same as foxes new stuff no good it has to weather
1080 baits put where there are the dead farm animals buried on the farm they take the bait and dont bother to dig up the composted area where you have buried your animals.
I use plaster of paris and icing sugar and had a hell of a time on one part of this forum and now you are using it with oats...... Hey but I dont see the difference.